Overclockers UK Forums Click here for more details
Free Shipping for Loyal Forum Members - CLICK HERE

Go Back   Overclockers UK Forums > Life > Motors

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 6th May 2011, 08:54   #1
saitrix
Sgarrista
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Loughborough
Posts: 8,926
Do I need to sorn my car?

Hi,

I have just purchased a new car which is now on my driveway. I am not able to start using this car until the 28th May due to my current insurer not being willing to insure the new car. So it will spend this time on my drive uninsured, does this mean I have to declare it sorn? If so, how do I do it without the V5 as it has been sent off for the change of ownership.


2009 FN2 Civic Type R
saitrix is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 08:57   #2
Rilot
Don
 
Rilot's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: Twyford, UK
Posts: 16,787
Is it taxed?


ri@rilot.co.uk - 2010 Jaguar XJ 5.0 Portfolio
Rilot is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 08:59   #3
RastaManBob
Wise Guy
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,220
Quote:
Originally Posted by saitrix View Post
Hi,

I have just purchased a new car which is now on my driveway. I am not able to start using this car until the 28th May due to my current insurer not being willing to insure the new car. So it will spend this time on my drive uninsured, does this mean I have to declare it sorn? If so, how do I do it without the V5 as it has been sent off for the change of ownership.
No help with your question at all (I believe it should be SORN but no idea how you'd go about doing it), but... New car? What've you gone for this time Dan?

Gigabyte GA-6BXE | Intel Pentium 3 600mhz
256mb PC100 SD-RAM | Geforce2 Ti 64mb | Dodgy case
My ultra fast PC
RastaManBob is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 08:59   #4
saitrix
Sgarrista
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Loughborough
Posts: 8,926
Yes it is at the moment, as it needed tax to get it home and I used a day insurance policy to insure it for the day. Just gone to sorn it online and it needs a number from the front of the V5!


2009 FN2 Civic Type R
saitrix is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 09:10   #5
JRS
Capodecina
 
JRS's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Stretton, Burton-on-Trent
Posts: 12,035
I think under the rules that came in this April it will have to be SORNed if it isn't insured.

JRS is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 09:19   #6
andicole0
Mobster
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Robertsbridge
Posts: 3,334
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRS View Post
I think under the rules that came in this April it will have to be SORNed if it isn't insured.
Yes either insured or Sorn'd.

You can SORN a vehicle on-line with the registration number and V5 reference number which should be on the part of the V5 you were given by the seller and you retained.

Andi.

andicole0 is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 09:34   #7
Burnsy2023
Man of Honour
 
Burnsy2023's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: Southampton, UK
Posts: 35,116
Quote:
Originally Posted by andicole0 View Post
Yes either insured or Sorn'd.

You can SORN a vehicle on-line with the registration number and V5 reference number which should be on the part of the V5 you were given by the seller and you retained.

Andi.
Indeed.


Burnsy2023 [at] ocukdons [dot] co [dot] uk
Burnsy2023 is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 10:32   #8
Westyfield2
Capodecina
 
Westyfield2's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Bath
Posts: 12,507
This is precisely why I disagree with the new SORN rules .

Westyfield2 is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 10:50   #9
Fr0dders
Caporegime
 
Fr0dders's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: West Yorks
Posts: 33,089
regarding the V5 bit, afaik the new keepers supplement is sufficient.


Xbox, Origin, Steam, Uplay: Fr0dders PSN: Fr0dders82
Fr0dders is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 11:18   #10
saitrix
Sgarrista
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Loughborough
Posts: 8,926
Hmm been doing a bit of digging on the dvla website, it seems this isn't coming into effect until the end of June 2011. Look on this link.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ance/DG_186696

"From the end of June 2011 Insurance Advisory Letters (IAL) will be issued to the registered keepers of uninsured vehicles."

So if I read that correct I should be able to keep it taxed? Plus reading on that page it seems you get a letter first saying what you need to do to, ie sorn or insure etc.

What do others think?


2009 FN2 Civic Type R
saitrix is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 12:59   #11
RastaManBob
Wise Guy
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,220
Quote:
Originally Posted by saitrix View Post
Hmm been doing a bit of digging on the dvla website, it seems this isn't coming into effect until the end of June 2011. Look on this link.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ance/DG_186696

"From the end of June 2011 Insurance Advisory Letters (IAL) will be issued to the registered keepers of uninsured vehicles."

So if I read that correct I should be able to keep it taxed? Plus reading on that page it seems you get a letter first saying what you need to do to, ie sorn or insure etc.

What do others think?
From your link I still think it suggests it needs to be (a) insured or (b) SORN.

Quote:
If you're the registered keeper of a vehicle, it must be insured at all times.

The only exceptions are:

-if you have made a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) for the vehicle
-vehicles that have been kept off-road since before SORN came into force on 31 January 1998 - unless they are brought back into use
If you don't have insurance then looking at the exceptions it appears making a SORN is the only possibility.

Doing a quick Google for 'Insurance Advisory Letters (IAL)' (as you mentioned) seems to suggest that this is a letter from insurers warning individuals that they appear to be uninsured (and that they face the possibility of being fined if they fail to take action). By my understanding this is only some sort of reminder rather than a valid exception; I guess they're leaving it till the end of June to give people the chance to align themselves with the new law rather than having to send IALs out to everybody on the day of the change. Whether this means that there will be a degree of leniancy until these are out though, I don't know...

Still, this is only my interpretation of what I've read so it'd be interesting to hear from others.

Gigabyte GA-6BXE | Intel Pentium 3 600mhz
256mb PC100 SD-RAM | Geforce2 Ti 64mb | Dodgy case
My ultra fast PC
RastaManBob is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 13:30   #12
Gaygle
Capodecina
 
Gaygle's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Location: East of England
Posts: 13,454
My mum's old car has been uninsured but taxed for about a month now - no sign of a letter or fine as of yet.

Gaygle is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 6th May 2011, 17:46   #13
saitrix
Sgarrista
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Location: Loughborough
Posts: 8,926
Hmm really not sure then on this. Oh and Dan, it's a DC2.


2009 FN2 Civic Type R
saitrix is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Old 8th May 2011, 07:07   #14
Dooksy
Capodecina
 
Dooksy's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,083
Dan, do you need the document reference number? V5 will be going in the post tomorrow.

Intel i7 5960X|Samsung SM951 SSD|Titan-X SLI
MSI X99A XPower|16Gb DDR4|LG 34UC97-P|Dell U2713H
Seasonic X-Series 1050w|Phanteks Enthoo Primo with custom loop
Evo IX FQ 340
Dooksy is offline   View trust for Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:55.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Overclockers UK (Ocuk Ltd)