Brexit thread - what happens next

MichaelAwkward · 31 Aug 2016 at 13:55

delta0 said:
None are going to be in the top. Italy grows rice such as those used in Risotto like Arborio.

Yep.

http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/cereals/trade/rice/economic-fact-sheet_en.pdf

Italy accounts for more than half of all EU rice production (page 9).

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior · 31 Aug 2016 at 14:36

delta0 said:
None are going to be in the top. Italy grows rice such as those used in Risotto like Arborio.

yeah was surprised at the volume, I am quite intrigued so next time I buy some rice I will check a few packets to see where they come from

Avenged7Fold · 31 Aug 2016 at 15:44

delta0 said:
None are going to be in the top. Italy grows rice such as those used in Risotto like Arborio.

Not really the same kind of rice. That is the sort of short grain rice they use to make risotto.

I couldn't live without my glutinous rice or basmati rice :mad:

Being half Italian half Filipino, I grew up in a family where people were very particular about rice

Faustus · 31 Aug 2016 at 16:22

I banged my head getting into the car this morning and I'm wondering if it's more serious than I thought, as the Brexit thread has now morphed into one where we now appear to discussing "rice". :confused:

Cern · 31 Aug 2016 at 16:57

Faustus said:
I banged my head getting into the car this morning and I'm wondering if it's more serious than I thought, as the Brexit thread has now morphed into one where we now appear to discussing "rice".

If you banged your head you should put a rice pack on it.

joeyjojo · 31 Aug 2016 at 17:45

Faustus said:
I banged my head getting into the car this morning and I'm wondering if it's more serious than I thought, as the Brexit thread has now morphed into one where we now appear to discussing "rice".

You must have missed the articles I shared about the effects of Brexit on food imports.

robfosters · 31 Aug 2016 at 18:58

PM still seems pretty intent on delivering brexit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37219143

Amp34 · 31 Aug 2016 at 21:07

VoG said:
No staying in the EU by the back door, says Theresa May

No staying in the EU by the back door?, so total Brexit then?.

Probably. It's pretty much where she has stood for years, even if she pretended to be a remainer for a short period. Good political posturing and nothing else.

VoG · 31 Aug 2016 at 21:16

Restricting immigration will be at heart of Brexit deal, Theresa May says

Theresa May has agreed with her cabinet that restricting immigration will be a red line in any negotiations with the EU, in a move that experts claim will end Britain’s membership of the single market.

“Several cabinet members made it clear that we are leaving the EU but not leaving Europe, with a decisive view that the model we are seeking is one unique to the United Kingdom and not an off-the-shelf solution,” she said.

“This must mean controls on the numbers of people who come to Britain from Europe but also a positive outcome for those who wish to trade goods and services.”

Well this is going to be interesting because free movement is one of the core tenets of the EU, doing away with that will cost us.

Caged · 31 Aug 2016 at 21:21

Faustus said:
Trouble is if we had an election who the hell would you vote for? Choice on ballot paper - dammed if you do or dammed if you don't.

Take pride in your ability to draw a massive dong on the ballot paper

dlite · 31 Aug 2016 at 21:28

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
My view on acceptable Brexit terms:

1) Still allowed free trade with the EU (point 3 below is the bargaining tool)
2) Able to setup own trade deals outside EU with no EU interference

Your first two points are already totally contradictory with each other.

In your scenario UK could agree with China whatever they want and have every ship from China just stop in Felixstowe on the way to Rotterdam and this would circumvent 100% any and all China-EU trading deals.

Have some realism.

Cern · 31 Aug 2016 at 21:28

VoG said:
Restricting immigration will be at heart of Brexit deal, Theresa May says

Well this is going to be interesting because free movement is one of the core tenets of the EU, doing away with that will cost us.

TM doesn't seem the sort who deals much in compromises. I think it's quite clear this is shaping up as "Brexit means FULL Brexit".

Amp34 · 31 Aug 2016 at 21:32

VoG said:
Restricting immigration will be at heart of Brexit deal, Theresa May says

Well this is going to be interesting because free movement is one of the core tenets of the EU, doing away with that will cost us.

Be interesting to see how the exchange rates react to that news.

n111ck · 31 Aug 2016 at 21:59

Cern said:
TM doesn't seem the sort who deals much in compromises. I think it's quite clear this is shaping up as "Brexit means FULL Brexit".

Refreshing to see a politician not bottling it - negotiations will be interesting as it seems likely the EU will be forced to reform its own policies on immigration regardless of Brexit.

Cern · 31 Aug 2016 at 22:22

n111ck said:
Refreshing to see a politician not bottling it - negotiations will be interesting as it seems likely the EU will be forced to reform its own policies on immigration regardless of Brexit.

"Seems likely" you say. Source?

Tefal · 31 Aug 2016 at 22:33

Switzerland is looking to be a problem.

Not only do they want immigration caps after thier referendum.

The EU is looking to ban/crack down on gun laws across the EU after the paris attacks which could remove the rights of men to keep thier rifles after service there.

Tefal · 31 Aug 2016 at 22:35

Cern said:
"Seems likely" you say. Source?

"Seems likely" means its his interpretation of current events.

What ****ing source are you expecting for a personal assesment?

Its clear though that immigration is becoming a major point across the EU, with many national elections being dominated by it meaning more and more politicians will have to say they'll do something about it.

delta0 · 31 Aug 2016 at 22:48

dlite said:
Your first two points are already totally contradictory with each other.

In your scenario UK could agree with China whatever they want and have every ship from China just stop in Felixstowe on the way to Rotterdam and this would circumvent 100% any and all China-EU trading deals.

Have some realism.

Like the EEA then.

Cern · 31 Aug 2016 at 22:59

delta0 said:
Like the EEA then.

How is this like the EEA? In order for EEA members to access the single market they are bound by EU legislation concerning the single market. They cannot just act as a conduit for non-EU goods entering the EU and bypass tariffs etc.

Nate--IRL-- · 31 Aug 2016 at 23:37

Tefal said:
Switzerland is looking to be a problem.

Not only do they want immigration caps after thier referendum.

The EU is looking to ban/crack down on gun laws across the EU after the paris attacks which could remove the rights of men to keep thier rifles after service there.

I'd be interested to know how the EU could impose gun control legislation on the Swiss.

Nate