Caporegime
Plenty of places charge an admin fee. Not the big chains, but many smaller places do.
Cyclescheme messing me about!
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Plenty of places charge an admin fee. Not the big chains, but many smaller places do.
could you name one?
Man of Honour
PlanetX
That's not an "admin Fee", the reason they do it is exactly the same reason why we do it on sale bikes, their margins are far lower than in a shop so they will not/cannot afford to let the customer also use cyclescheme as a £1000 vouchers is only £900.
Find me a normal bike shop adding an "admin fee" onto the normal RRP of a bike...
edit - Planet X bikes are essentially all priced at sale prices anyway hence the value for money. Ergo - nor to be used in conjunction....comes into effect
Man of Honour
That's exactly what an admin fee is. They even call it an "administration charge":
http://www.planetx.co.uk/cycle-scheme
Man of Honour
Whoa, shocker. They have low margins and hence they add an administration charge on to the price when you use a c2w voucher. You wanting to use a different terminology doesn't make anything different or anyone wrong when they use the same terminology as another shop.
It's pretty comical that you asked for an example, were immediately given one, then claimed that the example was invalid, *then* were linked to the website of the example showing you to be wrong and *even then* tried to explain how you were right and others were wrong.
ok whilst I agree I was wrong on the terminally planet x decided to use, your clearly not silly enough to realise the point I'm making tho, find me any other SHOP that charges an admin on the RRP of any of the big 4 brands in the uk over and above the RRP. If you can then I will truly eat my words, picking one of the most well known cheapest webshops isn't a great example of the big picture which is what I'm trying to get across.
Bearing in mind I know the top 20 cyclescheme shops in the UK ( as we are one of them ).
Bearing in mind I know the top 20 cyclescheme shops in the UK ( as we are one of them ).
Man of Honour
I don't think that anyone was suggesting the shop was ripping off customers - simply that they're passing on the c2w admin fee to customers (which is completely understandable).
edit: Actually, utmaniac made some odd claims. I don't agree with any of them.
edit: Actually, utmaniac made some odd claims. I don't agree with any of them.
Caporegime
For what it's worth, I'll name another: Dolan.
Have another: Ribble.
Have another: Ribble.
so could you find me one of those shops charging extra against the RRP of a know bike brand?
there is absolutely no drawback to using cyclescheme whatsoever so I don't even know why on there is often this anti c2w crowd on these forums...
Man of Honour
You're changing the goal posts. I don't really shop against big brands so I can't provide any additional examples.
I'm not anti-c2w. I've used the scheme four times myself.
Back to the point from the OP - I will guarantee they will NOT be in touch with you. Can you imagine sending someone out to view 4 year old bikes from everyone who has ever had a bike from the C2W scheme.
Sorry lost it, sold it, didn't know you were coming etc etc. They won't be in touch, don't worry about it.
Sorry lost it, sold it, didn't know you were coming etc etc. They won't be in touch, don't worry about it.
Man of Honour
Yeah, this did sound odd. Most of my old bikes have either been dismantled, sold or stolen so they'd have a fun time trying to view them.
ROFL, you know fine well why those "shops" add a fee onto their bikes and its just silly to cite those particular 3 places. What i keep asking for that no one has provided is a SHOP selling a normal bike brand and adding a fee on top of the RRP. I know your probably going to say but these places have shops as well as their online store, again you know fine well that these shops are more about advertising more than anything as the Planet X shop in Edinburgh clearly proved it doesnt work as a profitable business model.
Coming back onto your 3 places your provided -
Planet X pro Carbon Ultgera at £1000
Planet X charge you an extra £100 fee plus your £1000 voucher,
Once you ve then taken into account your saving made on your £1000 voucher, you ve still bought the bike for less than you ever could have so im still not seeing a problem.
Man of Honour
I'm not sure why you have such an issue with people providing examples. Vonhelmet is actually also a c2w proponent so it's kind of baffling. People are just not providing a one-sided view.
Soldato
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Shops doesn't set the rrp the brands do.
Cyclescheme has allowed people to buy a bike more expensive than they otherwise would.
Places like planet x and ribble selling products for less than a shops trade price, doing an ultegra bike or groupset for less than a 'branded' 105 level bike costs. It's a race to the bottom to make 50p on a something at £10.
Thankfully some suppliers do their best to help out but bike brands typically don't.
If I want to sell someone a bike with an RRP of £1000 and I'm willing to take £800, I can't then do that bike on a Halfords voucher for £800 as they will pay the shop £680. The extra charge isn't to be greedy it's purely to make it financially viable.
The very small double digit profit made has to keep the shop here for any backup, deal with any warranty work, cover the hours of time dealing with said customer and then fitting the pedals/cleats they bought online for less than we can.
Apologies for the rant
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.0...ydRHi4j-hjDtT_OOOCBg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
The bike I wanted was £800 but they said it would cost £50 extra if I put it on Cyclescheme.
I paid £700 cash for it.
so a voucher worth £720 to them was refused but they were happy to take £700?
great business that!
It's just a really weird system, I belive things were tightened up since it's introduction as it was too generous ... It all seems overly complicated to me..
It was a tax free, interest free loan, which was designed to get more people on bikes, but I think these days you're better off saving up £700 or whatever and getting a cash discount with the retailer.. So it seems the object of the scheme has been defeated.
It seems like a lot of faf..
It was a tax free, interest free loan, which was designed to get more people on bikes, but I think these days you're better off saving up £700 or whatever and getting a cash discount with the retailer.. So it seems the object of the scheme has been defeated.
It seems like a lot of faf..
Caporegime
Nah, you do make decent savings on the scheme, particularly if you don't have to pay an admin fee.