house of cards at McLaren

lunarwolf · 15 Nov 2016 at 17:43

Ron Dennis on gardening leave after 35 years. bitter pill to swallow.

not a Ron Dennis fan, but you can't really blame him for their poor F1 performance

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/d...grounds-forced-him-out-of-mclaren-850663/?s=1

UTmaniac · 15 Nov 2016 at 18:11

This has been brewing, according to articles, for a little while. Changing of the guard commences, next up Bernie?

Glaucus · 15 Nov 2016 at 18:26

Let's hope its change for the good as whitmarsh was terrible. Its time though, need a complete team restructure and building back up.

However probably means next year will still be terriable.

The_Abyss · 15 Nov 2016 at 23:25

The biggest mistake Dennis made was replacing Whitmarsh... with himself. He should have stayed at board level as a shareholder and found a replacement. Now he's got no control and nothing but equity.

It is what McLaren needed but has had to be done in a disorderly way.

deuse · 16 Nov 2016 at 08:54

A sad day in F1

Wonder what Alonso will say?
And McLaren sake him but haven't got a clue who will replace him.

this_is_gav · 16 Nov 2016 at 09:06

deuse said:
A sad day in F1 Wonder what Alonso will say?

I hardly think Alonso went back to McLaren to work with Ron Dennis after 2007.

It was more a case of going back to McLaren despite Ron Dennis.

Syla5 · 16 Nov 2016 at 09:42

Is everyone missing the fact that he is still going to be on the boards of both companies and is still a director for MTG??

Clearly his choices have not been great and the impact on the F1 team is visible. Give McLaren a Mercedes engine and the only excuse becomes the chassis (which is clearly not anywhere close to their claimed "best chassis in F1"). McLaren is, and has been underperforming across the whole car since big Ron's and Honda's return.

koolpc · 16 Nov 2016 at 09:49

If a Football team is doing really bad they sack the top guy? Same with McLaren i guess. About time he was replaced i guess.

Armageus · 16 Nov 2016 at 09:53

Completely unlikely but the article below includes the usual speculation of Ross Brawn being linked to the job:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-...t-by-mclaren-as-a-colossus-of-formula-one-se/

V F · 16 Nov 2016 at 13:18

Funny how Ron done the same to Martin Whitmarsh?

Mark365 · 16 Nov 2016 at 13:45

This could be the perfect opportunity for McLaren to sign Toto Wolff.

KiNgPiN83 · 16 Nov 2016 at 14:11

So what does Eric Boulier do then? I forgot he was even there until i saw him a couple of races back.

The_Abyss · 16 Nov 2016 at 15:34

He manages the men who consistently get the strategy wrong.

RSR · 16 Nov 2016 at 18:50

Mark365 said:
This could be the perfect opportunity for McLaren to sign Toto Wolff.

I think you mean Ross Brawn.

Glaucus · 16 Nov 2016 at 20:14

Mark365 · 16 Nov 2016 at 21:08

RSR said:
I think you mean Ross Brawn.

Ross has already stated that if he were to return to F1, it wouldn't be as a team boss. I think Ross will be working along side Liberty Media on future rules and regulation changes in order to make the sport more appealing. When F1 flows into different era's teams go through transformations which results in technical staff and management moving teams. McLaren Honda will be looking at the best person to take them forward short and long term. I think Toto is perfect for that. Three back to back titles at Mercedes, maybe time for a fresh challenge for Toto and maybe Paddy Lowe too (he is ex McLaren) tho I have heard Ferrari are interested in Paddy. Also if my memory is right, the guy who master minded VWs WRC success will be joining McLaren.

timmeh · 16 Nov 2016 at 21:30

I could have sworn I saw someone suggesting the Audi LMS boss could be a good fit. Anyway, if it wasn't on here then let me say it - the Audi LMS boss could be a good fit.

Mark365 · 17 Nov 2016 at 09:09

timmeh said:
I could have sworn I saw someone suggesting the Audi LMS boss could be a good fit. Anyway, if it wasn't on here then let me say it - the Audi LMS boss could be a good fit.

I reckon if that guy were to be available, he would be the target of lots of F1 teams. Audi will want to retain him for there journey into Formula E which they consider the future.

MissChief · 17 Nov 2016 at 11:27

Mark365 said:
Ross has already stated that if he were to return to F1, it wouldn't be as a team boss. I think Ross will be working along side Liberty Media on future rules and regulation changes in order to make the sport more appealing. When F1 flows into different era's teams go through transformations which results in technical staff and management moving teams. McLaren Honda will be looking at the best person to take them forward short and long term. I think Toto is perfect for that. Three back to back titles at Mercedes, maybe time for a fresh challenge for Toto and maybe Paddy Lowe too (he is ex McLaren) tho I have heard Ferrari are interested in Paddy. Also if my memory is right, the guy who master minded VWs WRC success will be joining McLaren.

Jost Capito has already joined from VW, he started work a couple of months ago.

Mark365 · 17 Nov 2016 at 12:50

MissChief said:
Jost Capito has already joined from VW, he started work a couple of months ago.

Thanks for the clarification. Tell you what, Jost would be a very handy guy to have in your team, his work with VW was outstanding.