phenom 2's

mmj_uk · 8 Jan 2009 at 12:16

It's a good upgrade for AM2 owners, almost C2Q level performance is nothing to be sniffed at.

I can't see why anyone with a S775 rig already would take the AMD route though and that'll be AMD's problem.

N19h7m4r3 · 8 Jan 2009 at 12:25

gareth170 said:
it is...

i think ocuk put the wrong picture on

There is a normal and Black Edition.

OCUK don't have the black edition otherwise it woul dbe listed in the other's specs.

Emlyn_Dewar · 8 Jan 2009 at 12:29

Hmm, need to wait 'til payday so I can evaluate the funds.
Sale of the 9600 and a nice 920 would do me nicely.

Uther · 8 Jan 2009 at 12:38

mmj_uk said:
It's a good upgrade for AM2 owners, almost C2Q level performance is nothing to be sniffed at.

I can't see why anyone with a S775 rig already would take the AMD route though and that'll be AMD's problem.

Well for people like me,still sitting here on a skt 939 system,at least it widens the choice a bit!

NightmareXX · 8 Jan 2009 at 12:42

N19h7m4r3 said:
There is a normal and Black Edition.

OCUK don't have the black edition otherwise it woul dbe listed in the other's specs.

The 940 is the black edition, it just isn't written.

In addition to Dragon platform technology, individual AMD Phenom II X4 processors will be available from AMD channel e-tailers at launch:

AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition processor – (3.0GHz) – $275 MSRP...

Source (Official AMD press release).

Official AMD pricing. This doesn't list any 940 other than the black edition

N19h7m4r3 · 8 Jan 2009 at 13:17

Guru3D said:
Though this is a Black Edition version, you do not need to purchase the BE version. The regular Phenom II X4 940 is 100% the same performance wise, yet has its multiplier locked, which makes overclocking a bit more difficult. The regular Phenom II X4 940 is also clocked at 3.0 GHz, with the same cache sizes and the same 125 watt TDP (peak processor wattage). So remember, the only difference is the unlocked multiplier.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-phenom-ii-x4-920-and-940-review-test/7

EvilOne · 8 Jan 2009 at 13:31

Read most the reviews now (well the conclusions

). Phenom2 seems to be slightly slower then 45nm intel quads clock for clock, but the diffrence is very minor and doesnt take into account overclocks. Not bad for a first release, competing against late revisions of core2quads.

With the extra 5-10% boost for AM3, it should easy pass the core2 clock for clock speeds. But till those are out its just a guess.

Overclocking seems good, altho some sites have made good atempts and others still cant seem overclock AMD well (as they are use to doing intel overclocks). These chips should keep up with even the more costly core2quad chips comparing max overclocks.

Cant wait to see what future releases can do, as this is just the start.

gareth170 · 8 Jan 2009 at 14:28

Yewen can u check to see if the 940 is the black edition?

Emlyn_Dewar · 8 Jan 2009 at 14:31

It isn't.

NightmareXX · 8 Jan 2009 at 14:31

I phoned the shop and apparently it isn't the BE

gareth170 · 8 Jan 2009 at 14:48

ok thanks.

i won't buy this one then...

when will ocuk get the BE version?

grudas · 8 Jan 2009 at 14:56

so i dont know much about cpu's and haven't been falowing phenom 2 infos i have am2 not + motherboard will it run fine on that? it's asus m2r32 mvp btw..

gareth170 · 8 Jan 2009 at 14:58

grudas said:
so i dont know much about cpu's and haven't been falowing phenom 2 infos i have am2 not + motherboard will it run fine on that? it's asus m2r32 mvp btw..

check asus for a bios update..

also u won't get the full HT speed on a am2 board.

mnemonix · 8 Jan 2009 at 15:11

NightmareXX said:
I phoned the shop and apparently it isn't the BE

I must say I'm surprised. Up to now AMD has only been talking about a regular 920 and a 940BE. If we're being palmed off with non-BE 940's now I think AMD is shooting themselves in the foot as they need all the good will and competitive advantage they can get, and this frankly sucks after all the 6 GHz overclocking hype.

Can we confirm the 940's available really are multiplier locked ?

gareth170 · 8 Jan 2009 at 15:16

mnemonix said:
Can we confirm the 940's available really are multiplier locked ?

theres 2 versions of the 940 , BE and locked one. just like the 9850..

drunkenmaster · 8 Jan 2009 at 15:40

mnemonix said:
I must say I'm surprised. Up to now AMD has only been talking about a regular 920 and a 940BE. If we're being palmed off with non-BE 940's now I think AMD is shooting themselves in the foot as they need all the good will and competitive advantage they can get, and this frankly sucks after all the 6 GHz overclocking hype.

Can we confirm the 940's available really are multiplier locked ?

remember the majority of sales are to OEM's where the extra £5 for an unlocked cpu isn't worth it. Also locking most of the chips especially for oem's who can't then simply change the bios and call them higher end chips at some point. Black editions really are for retail and the locked for oem's, though theres plenty of home users who won't overclock and don't want to pay more for the ability.

mnemonix · 8 Jan 2009 at 15:56

drunkenmaster said:
Black editions really are for retail and the locked for oem's

Seems strange that OCUK of all people would be selling the locked version then ? I'm not disputing what you say, but it doesn't change the fact it sucks that the enthusiasts here are being palmed off with non-BE parts.

FirebarUK · 8 Jan 2009 at 16:00

Better prices please OcUK! Other e-tailers are doing the BLACK EDITION 940 for less than £240.

Emlyn_Dewar · 8 Jan 2009 at 16:19

I wouldn't be buying these chips from OcUK until they sort the prices out, it's the typical new release here. Price high and grab the "mugs" then drop it a little and get the patient.

mnemonix · 8 Jan 2009 at 16:22

Well that might have worked were it not for the fact that it's not even the BE.

No one could be stupid enough to buy one of these ? Someone, somewhere s*****d up.