Vehicle Excise Duty changing again

squerble · 12 Feb 2016 at 19:29

Now switching to a £140 flat rate for any non-zero emission cars, with a supplementary charge of £310/year for five years for any cars over £40,000. This will apply to cars registered after April 1st, 2017.

Article with details

Chuk_Chuk · 12 Feb 2016 at 19:46

Edit: Ignore this just read the article

kaku · 12 Feb 2016 at 19:50

Tell me again about how it's to encourage people to drive more efficient cars... :rolleyes:

helpimcrap · 12 Feb 2016 at 20:07

kaku said:
Tell me again about how it's to encourage people to drive more efficient cars...

Because the gas guzzlers cost 4x more to tax! Over £2000!!

It makes sense though as every car destroys roads. Tax free cars are pointless in my eyes. My car destroys the road as much as a 'green' car... They don't float and road repairs cost money.

Deleted member 66701 · 12 Feb 2016 at 20:09

This government don't have environmental concerns particularly high on their agenda, but........

helpimcrap said:
Because the gas guzzlers cost 4x more to tax! Over £2000!!

Yup - first year rate for 255g/km is £2000.

But after the first year, the rate is £140 unless the car cost more that £40k - plenty of gas guzzlers under £40k though - and it will make 6yr old gas guzzlers look VERY attractive when they start hitting the market.

helpimcrap · 12 Feb 2016 at 20:53

amigafan2003 said:
This government don't have environmental concerns particularly high on their agenda, but........

Yup - first year rate for 255g/km is £2000.

But after the first year, the rate is £140 unless the car cost more that £40k - plenty of gas guzzlers under £40k though - and it will make 6yr old gas guzzlers look VERY attractive when they start hitting the market.

Ah right - I misread that as I was assuming £2k per year - not just the 1st year. All vehicles are £140 a year regardless of emissions. That's cool. They need to offer an incentive to buy a cleaner car though in a different way - maybe subsidise buying them?

The Running Man · 12 Feb 2016 at 20:57

kaku said:
Tell me again about how it's to encourage people to drive more efficient cars...

that's probably the 60% tax on fuel...

Government probably realise that they need to stop promoting diesels due to particulates and making petrol cars seem less expensive on yearly duty...

antijoke · 12 Feb 2016 at 20:58

Wow they really screwing those people who buy expensive cars.

But hell they can afford it.

[TW]Fox · 12 Feb 2016 at 21:26

anticonscience said:
Wow they really screwing those people who buy expensive cars.

But hell they can afford it.

No, they are screwing those who buy cars that once has an expensive list price. Many cars costing over 40k new cost rather less than that before they reach 5 years old...

Orionaut · 12 Feb 2016 at 23:10

[TW]Fox;29168153 said:
No, they are screwing those who buy cars that once has an expensive list price. Many cars costing over 40k new cost rather less than that before they reach 5 years old...

There is a reason why I value my 20 year old vehicles and go to a great deal of effort to keep them going!

George Hincapie · 12 Feb 2016 at 23:11

Get rid of VED and add it to fuel. The end.

theone8181 · 13 Feb 2016 at 06:38

It sounds as tho if you already have a big car then it stays the same. So there will be several types of ved going on.

helpimcrap · 13 Feb 2016 at 08:41

George Hincapie said:
Get rid of VED and add it to fuel. The end.

+1.

Make it £2 a litre and scrap VED. Those with economical cars pay less.... Simples.

helpimcrap · 13 Feb 2016 at 08:43

theone8181 said:
It sounds as tho if you already have a big car then it stays the same. So there will be several types of ved going on.

Yeah, I just thought -:it's only on new registrations so won't affect the majority. Will affect leasing and company cars a lot though as they are nearly always new?

mccarf · 13 Feb 2016 at 09:03

Makes mazda 3+6 MPS's more appealing now

[TW]Fox · 13 Feb 2016 at 09:14

mccarf said:
Makes mazda 3+6 MPS's more appealing now

How does it? Nothing changes for existing cars.

[TW]Fox · 13 Feb 2016 at 09:14

helpimcrap said:
+1.

Make it £2 a litre and scrap VED. Those with economical cars pay less.... Simples.

£2 a litre would double everyone's fuel costs and cost cost far more than ved!!

mccarf · 13 Feb 2016 at 09:20

[TW]Fox;29169001 said:
How does it? Nothing changes for existing cars.

Ah, missed that bit

Illusion · 13 Feb 2016 at 09:21

helpimcrap said:
+1.

Make it £2 a litre and scrap VED. Those with economical cars pay less.... Simples.

£2 a litre might be a bit off. I barely use a tank a month lately so I'd just about break even but surely the average motorist doing 10k a year would get screwed?

I like the idea in principle though rather than over charging the people that run thirsty cars but use them a lot less

bledd · 13 Feb 2016 at 09:24

helpimcrap said:
+1.

Make it £2 a litre and scrap VED. Those with economical cars pay less.... Simples.

What?

This would cost you 1000x more.

Vehicle Excise Duty changing again

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