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** ATi X1k/HD 3k series overclocking guide - ATi Tray Tools and ATi Tool + FAQ **

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** Updated 21st September 2006 ** For ATi Tray Tools Guide.
** Updated 21st December 2007 ** For better X1k series overclocking guide and addition of ATi Tool overclocking guide.


Drivers
Omega Drivers Site - For 2000/XP
Standard ATi Drivers - For 98/ME/2000/XP.


Software
ATi Tool - Use for R6x0 cards.
ATi Tray Tools - Install this regardless of card type, replaces CCC and use this to clock X1k (R5x0) series cards.
OpenGL Fur Rendering Benchmark Used for stability testing. Heated my card up like nothing else.

**If you are reinstalling Windows**
This is the way I do it :)
  1. Install Windows
  2. Install Chipset Drivers
  3. Download any windows updates required
  4. Install Other Drivers including Graphics drivers.
  5. Disable services - Start --> Run --> services.msc
  6. Install ATi Tool *If using it*
  7. Disable both ATi services - Start --> Run --> services.msc.
  8. RESTART - YOU MUST DO THIS

Now we are ready to rock and roll!

Disclaimer: Do so at your OWN RISK, although killing a card is VERY VERY VERY hard to do.

R5x0 - X1k Overclocking using ATi Tray Tools
The guide is based on a HIS IceQ X1900XT-X and the SERVICES MUST REMAIN DISABLED TO CLOCK USING ATT.

Before we start, setup the "Monitoring Graphs" by right clicking on the ATT Icon, to "Hardware" then to "Monitoring Graphs". Make sure you have both GPU and Memory clocks displayed as well as fan duty, GPU Temp, Env Temp and VR Out. These can be is separate graphs as shown in the link below.

Also enable the OSD (On Screen Display) by right clicking again, "Tools & Options" -> "OnScreen Display". Make sure under "General Settings" both boxes are ticked, select the position of where the OSD goes and the move onto the "Flash OSD tab" and select under "1 Line" all the boxes, and if you so wish any from "2 Line" I suggest clicking "VR Out" to check the core is getting the correct voltages. Should end up with something like:

OnScreen Display (OSD) and Monitoring Graph setup

1. First make sure ATi Tray Tools starts at boot.
To do this, right click on the icon in the task bar then "Tools & Options" --> "General Options". Then under "Start up options", "load with windows" should be checked.

2. Then right click on the icon again, go up to "Hardware" then "Overclocking settings". You should be confronted with a window with 3 tabs, ‘Overclocking’, ‘Fan’ and ‘Voltages’, like this:

overclocking_settings_1.jpg


Now the overclocking method should be grayed out "Driver Level".

3. We are first going to make a 2D profile. Now click "Include clocks in profile". Drag the two sliders down as far as they will go and then click apply.

4. Now go to the "Fan" tab, set the fan speeds to what you like or leave them alone. At under 10% then fan usually stops which isn't a good thing so try and keep it at 0% or atleast 15%. Make sure "Include in profile" is selected and click apply.

5. Move onto the "Voltage" tab, click "Enable Voltage Control" and once again make sure "Include in profile" is select then set the "GPU Voltage" to 1.1V, the drivers won't allow any lower than this as it stands. "Memory Voltage" and "Memory IO Voltage" should be kept within 1-2% of each other ideally, lower these as you see fit, I have mine as shown below (1.942V/1.942V):

overclocking_settings_2D.jpg


Now click on the blue floppy disk icon to save the profile, call it 2D, now in the drop down box this should appear" "2D * xxx.xx:xxx.xx C F V", x being a number and C F V stating that Clocks, Fan and Voltages are saved in that profile.

Now, everything should be ok here in terms of stability, but if you wish to triple check using the Fur Benchmark as shown above at your native res and max AA test your graphics card for "1800000" ms, thats 30 minutes and will be easily long enough to test 2D clocks.

Make sure that in the "load selected profile at startup" box is checked with the 2D profile name showing in the box on the right.

6. Now, 3D. As a note when working with these cards you MUST follow these rules:

• Increasing clock speed = Volts THEN Fan THEN Clocks
• Decreasing clock speed = Clocks THEN Fan THEN Volts

because if you set clocks with low voltage it will crash ;).

So, set:

X1800/1900/1950 series stock 3D voltages: 1.45/2.088/2.088 (Or as close as possible for the memory).

Then click apply.

7. Fan speeds, again set it to what you want, at stock everything should be fine up to 80C, although both cards I've had throw a wobbly at 75C+. Then click apply.

8. Now its time to set the stock clocks, as shown here:

X1800XL: 500/500
X1800XT: 625/750
X1800 GTO: 500/500
X1800 Crossfire Master Card: 625/750
X1900XT 512Mb: 625/725
X1900XT Crossfire Master Card: 625/725
X1900XTX: 650/775
X1950XTX: 650/1000 (Can someone confirm X1950XT/XTX compatibility?????)

Once again apply and then save to a profile of "Stock 3D".

Again everything should be ok now, but if you wish check for another "1800000" ms (30 mins) using the fur benchmark. Watch the temps on the OSD. Also make sure your Monitoring Graphs are running in the background.

8.Ok now onto overclocking!!!
I would work on core first, as the X1900 and possibly the X1800 series have a problem going over the CCC max of 690mhz on the core. Even with the services disabled. So load your "Stock 3D" profile, then save it under "Overclocked 3D".

Work your way up by 10mhz at a time, testing for at least 10 minutes of the fur Benchmark (600000 ms).

Most cards will do 690 on stock volts and the clocks that are set won't be exact, they will drop to the next allowable clock speed. IE If I set 730Mhz it will drop to 729Mhz, select 750Mhz drops to 746Mhz, etc.

If your on water or your air temperatures are still good then you can try increasing the voltage a notch and trying again, however you are only likely to gain a stop or two of clocks. If the monitor looses signal that means the core has crapped out, thus you need to either lower clocks, lower temps or increase volts.

When you think you have reached the max, test for an hour in the fur benchmark (3600000 ms), then if that passes then move onto memory!

9.Now memory is a difficult beast on these cards thanks to the memory controller on the die. Many people found that 1.95V gave them the best clock, others 2.2 etc etc. So this part usually takes the longest to test. I started at 1.9V on both Memory and Memory IO voltages and worked up, 10 mhz at a time, again testing for 10 mins for stability.

Once you are happy you have found the right spot, test for an hour again.

Here are my 24/7 overclocked speeds (stable up to 70C, 71C and over = crash)

overclocking_settings_3D.jpg


Eh, voila, clocked cards :).

To enabled automatic overclocking (like the services would have done if you hadn't disabled them), go to "Hardware" again and then "Auto Overclocking". Tick the check box "Enable auto 2D/3D overclocking" and select the 3D profile in the top and 2D profile in the bottom. Then click ok.


FAQ
My cards showing 500/600 instead of xxx/xxx, whats wrong?
Your card is showing the 2D speeds, as now ATi in there X1k series cards have 2D/3D modes to save power. All its displaying is your 2D speeds which will ramp up the speed to 3D when a 3d app starts.

3D Mark 2005 Score = 2D/3D
X1800XL/GTO = 7-8/8-9k
X1800XT/CF = 8-9/9-10k

X1900XT/CF = 9-10/10-11k
X1900XT-X = 9-10/11.5-12.5k (Heavily overclocked with Conroe = 14k, I have hit 14.5k with my card before)
X1950XT-X = 9-10/12.5-13k
(All X19x0 cards have same stock 2D clocks therefore roughly the same 2005 score)


PCI-E speed
Anyone who can adjust this, raise it. I have it at 110 and I might raise it to 120 as other have done this and seen both increasing in performance and overclocks.


Full out going for world record overclocking
New profile, set fan speed to 100%. Give it the beans. Voltages to 1.600V core on air for short periods only!!! 2.3/2.4V mem is ok for short periods. (only if it works lol)

Conc

PS: This site is VERY useful to tweak the max out of ATi Tray Tools and ATi Cats.

http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html
 
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Concorde Rules said:
However, I have 650/1600 @ 1.3V/1.960V

Conc


Are you saying you can only get your X1900xt card up to 650 on the core and no more.. :eek:


Thanks for doing a write up for how to overclock the X1900 cards.. :D
 
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chaparral said:
Are you saying you can only get your X1900xt card up to 650 on the core and no more.. :eek:


Thanks for doing a write up for how to overclock the X1900 cards.. :D

Well, im at 1.4V now, 660 on the core would just lock up at anything lower :(

Mem clocking will take a lot of time, as some people say high voltage = better, some say lower.

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Concorde Rules said:
Well, im at 1.4V now, 660 on the core would just lock up at anything lower :(

Mem clocking will take a lot of time, as some people say high voltage = better, some say lower.

Conc

660mhz core isn't a very good clock to be honest. Only 35mhz up. You could might clock higher if you increased the voltage? I run at 1.48V with my x1800xt, and there shouldn't be too much difference between them, right? Both are 90nm cores... Remember to carefully watch the temp, but the stock cooler on my x1800xt is good enough :)
 
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sablabra said:
660mhz core isn't a very good clock to be honest. Only 35mhz up. You could might clock higher if you increased the voltage? I run at 1.48V with my x1800xt, and there shouldn't be too much difference between them, right? Both are 90nm cores... Remember to carefully watch the temp, but the stock cooler on my x1800xt is good enough :)

No it isnt, but I thought 1.3V was stock 2D.. I was trying to keep below 1.4V :o
 
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No it isnt, but I thought 1.3V was stock 2D.. I was trying to keep below 1.4V :o

1.175 is stock 2D

3D I use 24/7 is vgpu 1.4, mvddc 2.079, mvddq 2.079, vddci 1.486

Also if you can't be asked to re-boot and want the CCC to work next reboot. Just ctrl-alt-del and end both ati2evxx.exe
 
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Hmmm ATI for clocking doesn't work for me (x1800XT here), I have to use ATI overclocker.

I do as you do though and alter voltages / fan speeds in ATI tool yet use overclockers 2D payne to alter the clocks.

Had it running up to 700/1660 so far with 1.420v on the core.
 
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my x1900xt i got the core at from 621 upto 670
the mem 720 upto 775 easy.
in the ccc

no change the volts

just a good waterblock that covers the ram aswell .
 
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Darren_uk said:
my x1900xt i got the core at from 621 upto 670
the mem 720 upto 775 easy.
in the ccc

no change the volts

just a good waterblock that covers the ram aswell .

670 stock volts? Nice clocker :)

Mines at 660/783 @ 1.4V, 700 @ 1.45V crashes :(

Looks like a bog standard X1900XT, not 1.1ns or XTX core :(

Can other people post there clocks at 1.4V?

Thanks Conc
 
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I've got my Connect3d X1900XT currently running @ core 675/ memory 750 at stock volts. I've backed the overclocks a little give me a bit of headroom. If I run the CCC overdrive tool, I can get up to 689/779, any higher and graphical corruption starts, so the overdrive tool stopped at those settings and I've dropped them a bit further.
I reckon one of the new zalman vf900 coolers will allow higher clocks all round. temps never exceed 87c (high I know, but the fan cuts in around that point co the temps fall off straight away).
 
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If I run the CCC overdrive tool, I can get up to 698/779, any higher and graphical corruption starts, so the overdrive tool stopped at those settings and I've dropped them a bit further.

How do you get ATI CCC overdrive tool to let you clock higher then 690 on the core???
 
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How do you get ATI CCC overdrive tool to let you clock higher then 690 on the core???

Oops, typo error there, it should be 689 not 698. thanks for pointing that out. When running the overdrive in CCC, the core literally stops at 689 goes no further, the memory overclock carries on going untill sparklies appear, then backs it down again to 779. Like I said, I run mine at 675/750 for 24/7 useage.
 
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My sapphire xt can do 670/775 24/7 and upto about 685/790 for a quick run of 3dmark on stock voltages and cooling. Not bothing modding it or anything like I did the x800pro until I need the extra performance or just get bored. :D
 
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My powercolor x1900xt hits the limit of 685.8 core at 1.4v before artifacting. My mem is at 792 atm but ive not really played with that yet.

Thats using Ati tool + fan 100% 67deg max.
 
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You need to realize the cooling is holding a lot of these cards back. Plus the insane heat is cooking the memory. Put some ram sinks on and you will be suprsied what you can achieve. With stock cooling I just managed to achieve XTX speeds. With my Reserator it maxed out with the CCC to 690/800 using auto overclock
 
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Devious said:
My powercolor x1900xt hits the limit of 685.8 core at 1.4v before artifacting. My mem is at 792 atm but ive not really played with that yet.

Thats using Ati tool + fan 100% 67deg max.

Dammit! Everyones cards are doing better than mine! :(

My GPU doesnt pass 60C, fans ruffly 65-80%.

666/792 @ 1.4/2.016V

Screenshot @ 656/778, note the Amps = 27.3!!!
http://www.thunder-keep.co.uk/site/3200x1200_656.jpg

At 666/792 it goes to 27.5 Amps! That can't be correct? lol

Conc
 
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At 666/792 it goes to 27.5 Amps! That can't be correct? lol

That's the current at the core voltage. The card pulls approx 150w with an OC, 12/13 amps 12v

On air. My core goes to 700 on stock voltage. The memory, only tried 850, sure it will go higher. Temps are good, only gets to 72C max.
 
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