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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 17:22   #1
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Re-applying for my Shotgun licence..

Under the conviction section i have put my 2x sp30 driving offences...do i have to put spent cautions?? Under the notes it does not say anything about mentioning cautions at all..

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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 17:47   #2
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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 17:51   #3
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blimey you drive fast and have a shotgun!! gangster tbh

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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 17:51   #4
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As you’re re-applying presumable these spent cautions were declared on you previous (re)application?

I would ask my FEO, not worth the potential problems in the future.


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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 18:21   #5
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Get a FAC instead, then you can have a proper sniper rifle like.
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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 19:08   #6
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blimey you drive fast and have a shotgun!! gangster tbh
Gangster?
Naah, redneck

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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 19:09   #7
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I couldn't think of ANYWHERE on the internet other than OcUK where people know about owning Shotguns.

I mean PC hardware>Shotguns the 2 just go hand in hand dont they?

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Old 3rd Sep 2006, 19:21   #8
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if it doesn't ask don't say.
Thats not the correct thing to do, You need to list everything they will have on their records about you. However minor or irrelevant they may be, they will show you are of good honest character. I heard of someone who got read his rights by the FEO when he failed to mention a 5 year old speeding conviction on his application :/

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Old 4th Sep 2006, 12:43   #9
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Thats not the correct thing to do, You need to list everything they will have on their records about you. However minor or irrelevant they may be, they will show you are of good honest character. I heard of someone who got read his rights by the FEO when he failed to mention a 5 year old speeding conviction on his application :/

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A caution is not a conviction

A Caution is a caution, therefore i do not have to declare it..

My 2x speeding fines are convictions, therefore that is what i have declared.

I did not declare them on my old licence as i applied before i had the cautions. The caution is now spent..

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Old 4th Sep 2006, 12:45   #10
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why are you getting a scatter-gun license? (i mean, whats the reason that you want one)

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Old 4th Sep 2006, 12:59   #11
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why are you getting a scatter-gun license? (i mean, whats the reason that you want one)
Because i enjoy clay pigeon shooting and game shooting..

I used to shoot a few years ago, applied for my licence in 2000 but volentarally gave up my licence in 2003 due to several life commitments, i regret giving it up now and i want to take it back up again..

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Old 4th Sep 2006, 13:00   #12
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Clay pidgeon shooting no doubt.

Me and my stepdad are looking into licenses.

edit: I was right

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Clay pidgeon shooting no doubt.

Me and my stepdad are looking into licenses.

Spot on, but prority wise its usually

1) Game shooting
2) rough shooting
3) Clay pidgeon

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Old 4th Sep 2006, 13:10   #14
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just wondering, because "clay Pidgeon shooting" is no longer recognised as a valid reason to get a shotty License.

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Old 4th Sep 2006, 13:21   #15
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just wondering, because "clay Pidgeon shooting" is no longer recognised as a valid reason to get a shotty License.
Yes it is if you are a member of a clay shooting club, its a sport which is taken up by millions, therefore its a valid reason

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Old 4th Sep 2006, 13:23   #16
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Aod is once again foiled by the mysterious internet villain

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Old 4th Sep 2006, 13:45   #17
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Its true though?

Im no villan

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Old 4th Sep 2006, 14:02   #18
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I mean PC hardware>Shotguns the 2 just go hand in hand dont they?
Guns and computer hardware?

Don't you see the connection?

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Guns and computer hardware?

Don't you see the connection?
I dont no, but seeing as this is the general discussion forum and not hardware i can see why

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Old 15th Sep 2006, 22:08   #20
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As previously being a Firearms Licensing Clerk, I wouldn't worry about speeding convictions they have no relevance to you owning a shotgun but still declare them anyway. If it was drink driving you might have to wait longer for your renewal/grant as they have to make enquiries to make sure your not a habitual drunk.

You dont need a reason to own a shotgun, it is only firearms (rifles) that you need a valid reason i.e Target. But if you apply make sure you have a good countersignature such as an accountant or postmaster. They will not accept Managers, Managing Directors or Company Secretary anymore.

Another biggy is if you declare Depression, it can take forever to get a letter from your GP or Psychiatrist and then even after a suitable reply from your GP it has to go to Supervision for a write-up.
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As previously being a Firearms Licensing Clerk, I wouldn't worry about speeding convictions they have no relevance to you owning a shotgun but still declare them anyway. If it was drink driving you might have to wait longer for your renewal/grant as they have to make enquiries to make sure your not a habitual drunk.

You dont need a reason to own a shotgun, it is only firearms (rifles) that you need a valid reason i.e Target. But if you apply make sure you have a good countersignature such as an accountant or postmaster. They will not accept Managers, Managing Directors or Company Secretary anymore.

Another biggy is if you declare Depression, it can take forever to get a letter from your GP or Psychiatrist and then even after a suitable reply from your GP it has to go to Supervision for a write-up.

How refreshing to have someone who appears to know what they're talking about.

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Old 15th Sep 2006, 23:09   #22
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just wondering, because "clay Pidgeon shooting" is no longer recognised as a valid reason to get a shotty License.
You dont need a reason to get a firearms cert with just shotguns on it. Unless the law has changed in the last year??
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 00:32   #23
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You dont need a reason to get a firearms cert with just shotguns on it. Unless the law has changed in the last year??
Firearms cert is different to a shotgun cert, you have a right to a shotgun cert but must have a reason(s) for a FAC as marmalizer said.

FAC is for rifles, 4+ shot shotguns and pistols etc, yes you can still own a pistol if you have lawful reason.

SGC is for all smoothbore weapons with a capacity of 3 or less rounds including canons if I remember correctly.


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Firearms cert is different to a shotgun cert, you have a right to a shotgun cert but must have a reason(s) for a FAC as marmalizer said.

FAC is for rifles, 4+ shot shotguns and pistols etc, yes you can still own a pistol if you have lawful reason.

SGC is for all smoothbore weapons with a capacity of 3 or less rounds including canons if I remember correctly.
Hmm well i have a question for you.. currently have some weapons in NZ with my parents which were on a license over here (and i still have the spaces) I was thinking of bringing them back over here seeing i'm here midterm now so, are pump actions legal as I've swapped a .22 for one?
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 13:19   #26
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Best speak to your FEO as he or she will know for sure.


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Best speak to your FEO as he or she will know for sure.
Thats what Im doing next week he's coming around on tuesday to have a quick look at my new cabinet (old one in Z), although saying that the guy at bedford just had a long chat nothing to do with weapons and didnt bother checking for the cabinet!
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 19:07   #28
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what cabinet did you get and any chance of a linky?

just moved house and need to look at getting a new safe, the old one aint moving any time soon >_<
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I have a brattonsound RD7+ its deep enough for scoped rifle for when i get an FAC plenty of room for the shotguns. When the guy came round he was more interested in looking at my pheasant pens than at the safe/guns.


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Vaguely relevant query. I've been thinking of taking up shooting as a hobby. I have no convictions nor mental health problems. What other stumbling blocks might there be to my application being successful?

Would one of these certificates be necessary if I were to just seek to join a club and use one of their guns on the premises rather than own a gun? Would a club require a certificate as a qualification for membership?

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