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Old 29th Jun 2012, 11:06   #1
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Why are Adobe discontinuing Flash on Mobile devices?

As of Jellybean it seems Flash won't be available. I can't understand why they would do this and discontinue there own product?
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 11:07   #2
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Because flash on mobile is a **** technology.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 11:08   #3
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Because flash on mobile is a **** technology.
Works fine for me, iPhone user per chance?
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 11:16   #4
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Yeah also a bit miffed about this as well!

No idea why, as it was a big advantage of android.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 11:18   #5
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Works fine for me, iPhone user per chance?
Nope, Blackberry user at present but play frequently with a few other high end Android phones.

Flash in general is a **** technology and I cannot wait till HTML5 becomes fully mainstream so that it can be all but removed from the web except for truly interactive uses like casual games.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 11:45   #6
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So far Flash player on Android has been more stable than HTML5. It's been awesome for streaming Euro 2012 matches from the BBC/ITV, I'll miss the guarantee of high quality desktop content.

It might be integrated via Pepper Plugin API for Chrome Android or Opera in the future (the only way you can get Flash player on Linux?)
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 11:52   #7
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It still works fine in 4.1 Jellybean, just not with the new default browser Chrome.

You can however install Flash just fine and run it through Firefox which now supports Flash.

However Adobe are clearly trying to kill Flash as fast as they possibly can for whatever reason, they seem to be starting the killing on Android first so don't expect Flash to be relevant at all for too much longer. Which is actually probably a good thing as it's time has come and it needs to make way for superior technologies.
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 11:53   #8
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So far Flash player on Android has been more stable than HTML5. It's been awesome for streaming Euro 2012 matches from the BBC/ITV, I'll miss the guarantee of high quality desktop content.
TVCatchup streams in native video formats.

If people want to use Flash on devices like android they should be using AIR.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 11:53   #9
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Unfortunately this happens when one company (ie Apple) is able to dictate what others do simply because of market share. Personally I'd like to have the choice to have Flash or not have Flash, but because Steve didn't like it, we don't get it at all.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 12:26   #10
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Also annoyed as I use it for my porn sites

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 12:29   #11
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Also annoyed as I use it for my porn sites
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 12:41   #12
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Well just install the old version then?

It's going to be available. They just won't update Flash is all.


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Old 29th Jun 2012, 12:47   #13
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Also annoyed as I use it for my porn sites
You'll just have to give them up.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 13:43   #14
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If people want to use Flash on devices like android they should be using AIR.
Why? It runs great and has little impact on battery life.

The BBC are running both a Flash and HTML5 live Wimbledon web feed, you can try them both on your mobile device. (imagine it was a court 13 match that isn't on a native app like TVCatchup)
The Flash version is much more stable and consistent, HTML5 is still a year or two off prime time.
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 14:17   #15
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Why? It runs great and has little impact on battery life.
It has significant impact on battery life in my experience. AIR is a native and supports full system integration.

HTML5 is not prime time yet, but it's being hindered by everyone using Flash still. The sooner Adobe kills it off the better for the web.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 14:32   #16
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Browser plugins just dont work very well on mobile in general. Flash will live on just as AIR, not in the browser.
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 14:36   #17
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Also annoyed as I use it for my porn sites
Your honesty is admirable.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 14:42   #18
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The BBC are running both a Flash and HTML5 live Wimbledon web feed, you can try them both on your mobile device. (imagine it was a court 13 match that isn't on a native app like TVCatchup)
Still doesn't work on Chrome though.
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 14:43   #19
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Also annoyed as I use it for my porn sites
It will be ok They have all been changed to use HTML5 or whatever, work on iPads lol.
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 16:26   #20
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I'm always honest

If I can download an old version I'm sure I will be fine, I know we need a more efficient standard and one will appear (html5) to replace flash. It is just the transition where there is nothing that I was worried about. I guess most sites will be preparing after hearing the news.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 17:02   #21
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Flash is dead because there's a viable alternative that uses a bucket load less battery and requires less hardware grunt for the same performance.

Don't judge HTML5 based on the BBC's integration of it - its terrible and crashes all the time for me too (iPad user) - a problem i haven't had at all when streaming football from a site i best not mention, that also uses HTML5 streaming - of even lfc.tv's HTML5 content for that matter.
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 17:14   #22
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Flash has been working fine for me. It will be a shame to see it go.

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Old 29th Jun 2012, 17:55   #23
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Flash is dead because there's a viable alternative that uses a bucket load less battery and requires less hardware grunt for the same performance.
But doesnt work the same across browser platforms, HTML5 has a long way to go.
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 18:02   #24
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Unfortunately this happens when one company (ie Apple) is able to dictate what others do simply because of market share. Personally I'd like to have the choice to have Flash or not have Flash, but because Steve didn't like it, we don't get it at all.
this sums up my thoughts too.
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Old 29th Jun 2012, 20:59   #25
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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 17:28   #26
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Well just install the old version then?

It's going to be available. They just won't update Flash is all.
Mmm, more Android malware.
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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 17:36   #27
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If you're browsing dodgy sites....


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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 17:50   #28
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Because flash ... is a **** technology.
I 100% agree and can't wait to remove it from my PC. I didn't bother installing it to my S3.

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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 17:53   #29
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If you're browsing dodgy sites....
Or installing dodgy apps that request access to everything or some japanese pron app or app from a 3rd party source

Pretty much the same for every other OS out there.


Apart from those, no problems with malware on android and very easy to avoid

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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 17:56   #30
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I bookmarked these sites my Galaxy S3 to prove a point:

http://waterlife.nfb.ca/

http://wechoosethemoon.org/

Are they silky smooth? Nope. Are they horrendous to view? Nope. Do they work alright? Yup.



Galaxy S3. Dolphin Browser HD. Adobe Flash Player 11.1.115.11.

You know what's hilarious? I was able to stream TVCatchup on my old Milestone... just about!

But Flash will die (which is fine). Just not for a while (a say give it another year). It's been quite useful at times actually. I prefer having that choice really. Until the sites I use that have Flash embedded actually start defaulting everything to HTML5 I'm not going to proclaim the death of Flash (which seems to have been said to be dead since the big Steve Jobs letter). They haven't done that. Youtube and BBC still default to Flash for my desktop and mobile.
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