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Old 8th Apr 2014, 00:04   #1
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Show us your gains on 337.50 nVidia drivers

Well the gains are very tasty indeed and I have done some basic testing at 1080P. The key for me was always needing to run my CPU overclocked to reduce the bottleneck with running two titans and found 4.6ghz to be the sweet spot but since trying the new performance drivers from nVidia, I no longer ned to run an overclocked CPU and have seen some big big gains in the few games I have tested. More to come but for now, this is what I have.

Post your results guys and if anyone wants me to put their findings into a nice graph and doesn't know how or have the tools, fire over your results and I will do it for you

It would be great if people could bench as many games as possible and if you don't see any gains, let us know as well. There maybe something we can see as the reason.

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Old 8th Apr 2014, 00:09   #2
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Nice gains

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Old 8th Apr 2014, 00:29
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We need to find a method on benchmarking battlefield 4. Me thinks an empty server is the only way to go.
We should have a route to take and follow.

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Old 8th Apr 2014, 00:57   #4
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For me I get along better in BF4 with DX11 than Mantel. I do like the look of those gains from the Nvidia drivers, won't ever get one myself unless the prices drop though.

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Old 8th Apr 2014, 01:00   #5
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Buy a 2nd hand GPU then, 780 or higher if some rich kids offload their 780Ti's in a few weeks when 6GB variants arrive.

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I really wish i chose a GTX770 over the 7950 now

very nice gains on these new drivers.

p*** poor mantle makes my performance worse than DX11 and the same for many others too
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 01:51   #7
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I really wish i chose a GTX770 over the 7950 now

very nice gains on these new drivers.

p*** poor mantle makes my performance worse than DX11 and the same for many others too
Driver this month should help with your 7000 series GPU on Mantle. Till then you better using DX11
Its funny though because even though the 7000 series haven't yet had the Mantle love not all users are experiencing issue. Look Humbug for example he having some lovely gains.

I waiting to see how AMD make there move now, what ever Nvidia have done am sure AMD can add something to there DX11 driver.

Waiting to see how the gains compare to the rest, of the on going GPU bench threads. Think it will be better if you guys added your results into each of them. seeing we not allowed to compare in here.


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Driver this month should help with your 7000 series GPU on Mantle. Till then you better using DX11
Its funny though because even though the 7000 series haven't yet had the Mantle love not all users are experiencing issue. Look Humbug for example he having some lovely gains.

I waiting to see how AMD make there move now, what ever Nvidia have done am sure AMD can add something to there DX11 driver.

Waiting to see how the gains compare to the rest, of the on going GPU bench threads. Think it will be better if you guys added your results into each of them. seeing we not allowed to compare in here.

Its interesting that Nvidia have not done this till now. why now? why not 2 years ago? whats changed now?

Something to do with Microsoft? a change with them?

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This is not an anti-Nvidia post by any means but part of me wonders if this has been possible for quite some time, there was just no real push to do it, so they kept fps artificially low but just high enough to beat AMD out. Now that AMD has the hype train with Mantle, Nvidia feels the need to actually do what could have been done for a while...

I am not a big believer in mantle but maybe a byproduct of mantle will be enhanced drivers from Nvidia and the releasing of the cards full potential.

It could be that and a mix that 20nm might not be ready for a while...
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 05:50   #10
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Very nice Greg. Any difference in synthetic benches with the new drivers?

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Its interesting that Nvidia have not done this till now. why now? why not 2 years ago? whats changed now?

Something to do with Microsoft? a change with them?
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This is not an anti-Nvidia post by any means but part of me wonders if this has been possible for quite some time, there was just no real push to do it, so they kept fps artificially low but just high enough to beat AMD out. Now that AMD has the hype train with Mantle, Nvidia feels the need to actually do what could have been done for a while...

I am not a big believer in mantle but maybe a byproduct of mantle will be enhanced drivers from Nvidia and the releasing of the cards full potential.

It could be that and a mix that 20nm might not be ready for a while...
Right, what Nvidia have done is to intercept and fundamentally rewrite big chunks of DX11. So yes, in theory either vendor could have done this a while ago IF they even thought to do it, if you think of the time and resources that AMD have ploughed in to mantle for a bit of short term oneupmanship (knowing that DX12 would be coming), then investing this level of time in to a major DX11 rewrite seems justified... Competition breeds advancement. It isnt really fair to complain that "nvidia could have done this ages ago", if you actually think about thr purpose of an API and drivers, and what doing this must have taken them.

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Old 8th Apr 2014, 06:21   #12
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Oh Nvidia drivers, how I miss thee....

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Old 8th Apr 2014, 06:52   #13
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Tech of Tmrw results on a 690... those results are great...

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Isn't this more significant than Mantle since it's not only effecting 2 games?

That's how I see it.

But obviously requires people testing more and more games, but if it affects games across the board for DX11, to me it's more significant than Mantle.
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 06:57   #15
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I only really have Thief to compare but I will give these drivers a go on my laptop. Should be interesting to see if I can squeeze some more performance out of my 780M.

I havn't really been following these drivers but are there any performance gains for BF3/Crysis 3. I am just thinking of other games I could test. I have BF4 & Tomb Raider on my consoles so I have no desire to purchase them again (especially as I got Tomb Raider (twice) for free).

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Isn't this more significant than Mantle since it's not only effecting 2 games?

That's how I see it.

But obviously requires people testing more and more games, but if it affects games across the board for DX11, to me it's more significant than Mantle.
As an AMD user, I say yes... 2 games, one that is average and the other that had a botched release and still has some problems...

What is the consensus though? I've seen people on other forums saying they've used the drivers and benched games and that the graphs were really overhyped, but then I see people who absolutely love them.
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Reading around and thru my own testing, gains are only really being seen by Sli set ups
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Old Game Swtor gone from 100 fps up to 115 worthwhile improvment in a game i wasnt expecting any
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Hi Greg Now you've had a play with BF4 with the new drivers how do you think it plays? in another thread i said how much smoother it felt as in some parts of certain maps you could feel it was very twitchy but now using these new drivers BF4 feels super smooth in all maps apart from some network lag.

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Can we add Mantle results or is this for Nvidia only? it would be interesting to make the comparison.
Can you start a new thread for that if you must please... Keep this to nVidia 337.5 driver discussions only. Thanks

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Hi Greg Now you've had a play with BF4 with the new drivers how do you think it plays? in another thread i said how much smoother it felt as in some parts of certain maps you could feel it was very twitchy but now using these new drivers BF4 feels super smooth in all maps apart from some network lag.
I have only played the one map on the new drivers and it still didn't give me good frames compared to any of the other maps but felt very good. I never felt it was bad before though and I am quite picky with fluidity/stutter/lag/tearing. I will have to have a play with that overlay thing running but when I previously ran and recorded with that, I never got any of that spiking that has been known to happen. I purposefully picked Shanghai, as that has always been the worst map for me and even though my frames were low, it played very nice. How I wish I liked the game though

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I have only played the one map on the new drivers and it still didn't give me good frames compared to any of the other maps but felt very good. I never felt it was bad before though and I am quite picky with fluidity/stutter/lag/tearing. I will have to have a play with that overlay thing running but when I previously ran and recorded with that, I never got any of that spiking that has been known to happen. I purposefully picked Shanghai, as that has always been the worst map for me and even though my frames were low, it played very nice. How I wish I liked the game though
I think that overlay looks much more compact and slightly flatter.
I'm running a 120Hz monitor and i have BF4 capped at 120fps but before the new drive i was seeing many times the fps drop below 120 but last night with 2 hours worth of gaming i never saw the fps drop though i did play your map but not when the building coming down.

This is a genuine upgrade and I'm grateful

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I think that overlay looks much more compact and slightly flatter.
I'm running a 120Hz monitor and i have BF4 capped at 120fps but before the new drive i was seeing many times the fps drop below 120 but last night with 2 hours worth of gaming i never saw the fps drop though i did play your map but not when the building coming down.

This is a genuine upgrade and I'm grateful
I was very impressed with Mantle and AMD did well in BF4 but for me, these gains are across the DX11 range (that I have found so far) and some of them are absurd. 40% gains for me in some instances is amazing and we are not talking one or two games here either. Gains in lots of games. The ability to knock the CPU overclock off is what impresses me the most. Heat is a nightmare in the Summer and running 3 big chips (3930K + two Titans) on a 360+240 rad is hard to keep cool but with dropping the OC on the CPU, it has just made that job a little easier.

I don't say this often but nVidia need a big high five for what they have done here. Maybe they have got in bed with Microsoft and if they have, happy days

Whyscotty asked me to add his results to the OP, so doing that now.

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My results are in the nvidia thread Greg if you want to compile a sexy graph for me

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Old 8th Apr 2014, 08:47   #30
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Will do Paul

Just did a couple of 4K tests with my CPU at stock on the old WHQL and new drivers.

Thief old drivers 19 - 40 - 62
Thief new drivers 29 - 49 - 70

Tomb Raider old drivers 35 - 49 - 64
Tomb Raider new drivers 48 - 59 - 72

So even at 4K I am seeing gains and clearly shows the CPU is not working so hard.

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