Conspiracy Files: The Third Tower

I agree with everything in your post apart from this statement, because it's stupid.

All the supposedly inexplicable things about 911 can be explained, every part of the official story can be backed up by solid evidence.

Well of course it can, because the "official story" excludes incriminating information.

One example is the money trail and the ISI payments to the hijackers ...totally ignored by the 9/11 commission and not in the "Official Story".

http://cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=essaysaeed
 
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Actually it's pretty common for the theory to come first. Someone will have an idea/theory based on either logical thought or one observation,

So it doesnt come first... its based on something else. You've just said it.
So how can you say it comes first?? bizarre....

You're right in that just because you have a theory about something it doesn't mean that the opposite can't happen. But if this does happen then your theory ceases to be a theory and becomes an incorrect idea that you had or possible an incomplete theory that needs further work.

Not based on one unique event it wont invalidate it. But in general yes.... like i had said in my post as well

The evidence to the contrary has to be absolutely overwhelming and only then would another hypothesis be seriously considered (and not just be CT sensationalist fodder)
 
Because it's dangerous to let stupidity go unchallenged. A better example of why this is are the conspiracy theorists that go around saying that the holocaust was made up and a big Jewish scam to help them achieve world domination. Do you think these people should just be allowed to go unchallenged spreading their propaganda?

Is there a law against it? Defammation of historical events? If there isnt a law against it sure why not.
 
So it doesnt come first... its based on something else. You've just said it.
So how can you say it comes first?? bizarre....

If you can't see the distincition I don't think I can help you :p

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Not based on one unique event it wont invalidate it. But in general yes.... like i had said in my post as well

Actually it does only take one event, unique or not!
 
Is there a law against it? Defammation of historical events? If there isnt a law against it sure why not.

I believe there is a law in place regards holocaust deniers, I don't think anyone wants a law that would restrict people expressing an opinion that differs from the excepted view of every historical event. We need people to counter the more stupid theories like those regarding 9/11 because they're extremely ignorant and offensive. How would you feel if you had relatives on one of those planes and you have to hear all the time about how it was all made up and the goverment planned their death? You'd want people to be standing up for the truth wouldn't you?
 
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That article would be a clinching argument in favour of the conspiracy theory, if EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT in it is not preceded with "reportedly", "it is believed", "some newspapers reported", "supposedly", "informed sources said" or "it has been claimed".

The article's writer himself seems to reasonably acknowledge the flimsiness of his speculation, but then cunningly plays right into people's paranoia by basically implying that the fact that Saeed Sheikh stopped being mentioned in connection with the money transfers after a few weeks is PROOF POSITIVE that he really was the person behind them! The sheer ludicrousness of this assertion would have been plain for all to see if the writing didn't skillfully manipulate the natural suspicion and inquisitiveness of his readers to trick them into drawing this conclusion themselves.

Their talk of "evidence" is basically some second-hand allegations made by publications as diverse as CNN, the Telegraph and Vanity Fair (seriously!), which they seem to be taking at face value even though those publications don't offer any evidence in support of them. It doesn't even look like they've checked up on them or cross-referenced it with anything else. It would at least have been easy to cross-check the dates when the FBI said the highjackers were in Dubai with the dates Saeed was there, but they don't even do that.

That article's saying that IF Sayeed and the ISI were linked to Al Qaeda, and IF the ISI had ties with the CIA, THEN 911 was a neocon conspiracy. The problem is that even if the first two speculations are true (which they don't really offer evidence for, although I personally think they are quite credible), it does not follow that the third is true! Could it not be that the CIA was unaware of the extent of the ISI's connection with Al Qaeda, or, more likely, that they were ignoring it because it served their interests to maintain ties with the ISI anyway? How does it make them co-conspirators in 911?

It's not news to anyone that Pakistan has a lot of Islamic extremists in it, and I'm not surprised that militants have achieved senior government/intelligence positions. And if you didn't know that the CIA had links to Islamic militants you're about 20 years behind. Does this PROVE (not suggest, not imply, but prove!) that the US government would have conspired with Al Qaeda in a plot to bring down the towers and precipitate an invasion of Afghanistan?
 
go on then post one bit of this so called "solid" evidence.

theres plenty of it out there well not SOLID but enough, but what i found most interesting is a DVD called "was the towers brought down by bombs" its about 4 hours long so yes it drags a bit but it explains a lot of things from the planes to people who were being silenced by the government
 
theres plenty of it out there, but what i found most interesting is a DVD called "was the towers brought down by bombs" its about 4 hours long so yes it drags a bit but it explains a lot of things from the planes to people who were being silenced by the government
And contains no evidence at all.
No blast damage on surrounding buildings, no explosives found, no explosive damage found on the wreckage..
 
i guess people are more open minded to things then you acid, from day one ive said i think it was bush, so he could have a reason to finish off what his dad started

but all to are own opinions...
 
i guess people are more open minded to things then you acid,

I'm very open minded thanks. But I have looked at as many resources as I can find and the towers had no explosives in them.

There might or might not of been some goverment involvement. Being it withholding intelligence or even paying Guys. but that could just as easily be gross mistakes. Look at all the people they trained and sponsored before.
 
I believe there is a law in place regards holocaust deniers, I don't think anyone wants a law that would restrict people expressing an opinion that differs from the excepted view of every historical event. We need people to counter the more stupid theories like those regarding 9/11 because they're extremely ignorant and offensive. How would you feel if you had relatives on one of those planes and you have to hear all the time about how it was all made up and the goverment planned their death? You'd want people to be standing up for the truth wouldn't you?

They are entitled to their opinion and provided they dont force it down my throat they can publish it in whatever magazine or talkshow or shout about it in hyde park if they like.

Where is the Uk law specifically relating to Holocaust deniers?
 
i guess people are more open minded to things then you acid,


lol - i love the way people defend crazy assertions by calling the people who don't, 'not open minded' - the irony is fantastic!! The very thing these conspiracy theorists are not is open minded as they are unable to think based on real evidence - the only way of being truly open minded.

its an argument i hear often -
'you don't believe in UFO's? you need to be more open minded'
'you don't believe in ghosts? you need to be more open minded'
you don't believe in astrology? you need to be more open minded'
'you believe we landed on the moon? you need to be more open minded'

no, i need to form my opinion based on FACTS, and EVIDENCE.

idiots!!!
 
Why would the government go to all the effort to blow up the buildings. Surely if for whatever reason they wanted 9/11 to happen then why not just hire people to do what the terrorists did, seems much simpler.:confused:
 
Imagine it as a bullet fired through multiple sheets of metal. The bullet slows down with each impact until it can't progress any further.

Instead, all three buildings fell at almost free fall speed - as in, there was very little slowing down the rate of descent.


The bullet doesn't get heavier tho does it? As the building is falling, its gaining more weight + speed + momentum. If there was just one object falling onto the building, then yes, i can see how the building will eventually slow it down. But with every floor, the downwards force on the building is increasing every single second, hence the speed.

Hope i've explained myself right :o


As for the controlled demolition, there would have been remains found.
 
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