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AMD Deneb 45nm hits 3441MHz on air

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Found this about the 45nm Phenoms:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7944.html

It looks like this was a cherry picked CPU so is probably not typical.

But there is hope for AMD, may be if the price is right and intel do there normal thing and release their all singing all dancing QXamazing for stupid money late this year and drip out the affordable ones early next year. If AMD can deliver these parts for say £120ish and they can match say a Q9550, it may be that AMD are worth considering again.

I expect H2 2008 will slip and that they will deliver significant performance, a few month after intel release there mainstream models and just after all the motherboard manufacturers stop flashing am2+ bios.
 
does it say 1.56+V in the CPU-Z screeny?

on 45nm? Is that safe? Not to mention the heat it would produce. Another fail from AMD tbh :/
 
Given that previous CPU-Z screenshots have displayed the wrong vcore before with a range of processors, I'll take its results with a pinch of salt.
Still, good stuff for AMD, Deneb is supposed to offer a healthy bump over Phenom so at clock speeds like that I'd imagine it'd be a nice system.

It'll need decent pricing and (as said above) GOOD MOTHERBOARDS to make it a platform worth buying into.
 
I know superpi isn't the be all and end all of everything but its a fairly good indicator of raw cpu power and with this supposedly fantastic clock this cpu still took 20s to do 1mb.

With my half heartedly clocked Q6600 I can nail it in under 15s, wolfdales with a half decent clock can get closer to 10.
 
matt100 said:
I know superpi isn't the be all and end all of everything but its a fairly good indicator of raw cpu power and with this supposedly fantastic clock this cpu still took 20s to do 1mb.
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Your in a minority if you think its a good indicator as if anything it does is related to everyday tasks as its single threaded & Intel,s Quad are better at single thread than AMD Quad.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3136577&postcount=19
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3136606&postcount=20
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3137698&postcount=24
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c330/Daveburt/0715_Winrar.jpg

The first link with a guy who has a Q6600 & a Phenom on a task that people do use that is multi threaded & that what you want a Quad for .
The [email protected] beat a higher clocked [email protected]
 
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the 3dmark06 CPU score is actually not a bad synthetic benchmark to make comparisons.

However, superpi is.
 
chill guys, I didn't say OMG AMD SUXXORZ or anything, I know a lot of these synthetic benchmarks favour characteristics of certain cpus but I also know that superpi is one of a range of benchmarks that can give a quick and dirty view of performance.

I also know that C2D hammering the crap out of A64 in superpi was used as an example of how much faster it was at performing pretty straightforward computations.

Getting multitasking into the equation will of course add all sorts into the mix, cache, motherboard config etc etc. Adding a bunch of numbers up will show you very quickly how fast a cpu operates in a single threaded straightforward environment and in that scenario it appears that a maxed 45nm Phenom still can't catch an averagely clocked wolfdale.

No fanboying, I buy whatever is fastest/best value.. I'm just suprised the Phenom comes so far behind in this specific benchmark and I would be suprised if that didn't translate into 3D Mark/game benchmarks which for the most part are pretty much single threaded.

If the Phenom is miles ahead in multithreaded aps then great, good for them. But they're a few years early and they're still getting a kicking by Intel for the average user.

IF thats the case.. it might not be :)
 
matt100 said:
chill guys, I didn't say OMG AMD SUXXORZ or anything, I know a lot of these synthetic benchmarks favour characteristics of certain cpus but I also know that superpi is one of a range of benchmarks that can give a quick and dirty view of performance.

I also know that C2D hammering the crap out of A64 in superpi was used as an example of how much faster it was at performing pretty straightforward computations.
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No! SuperPI just shows you how fast you can run...er..SuperPI.
 
nope, its not as spurious as 3d mark for gfx because you can dodge IQ and all sorts of things on that. This just calculates PI to a set amount of digits in a certain amount of time.

I'll admit its not a whole system test but few benchmarks are and i appreciate this isn't perfect but it does tell you how fast your PC can run a specific set of calculations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_PI

PI is predetermined therefore calculating it is a level playing field.

This is getting beyond the point I was trying to make, in this specific benchamark a run of the mill C2D can be almost twice as fast, what does that tell us? Not much I guess but I'd say its a fair indication this Phenom isn't going to set the world on fire regardless of the clock speed they can get it to on air.
 
gareth170 said:
are theses cpus meant for the am3?
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From what I have seen these CPUS will either run on AM3 with DDR3 or AM2+ with DDR2. Apparently there is some clever work done meaning that the CPU can use either memory depending on the slot so you won't have to choose a specific CPU for the specific slot. You just have to decide whether to buy an older AM2+ motherboard for cheep RAM or an AM3 board and remortgage to buy the DDR3.

This seems rather a too simple to me though. It might be like how AM2 cpus work on AM2+ motherboards, except they don't unless you have one of handful of motherboards and how quad core opterons work with motherboards for dual core opterons, again except they don't.
 
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