• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Apple suggests Nvidia is dishonest about GPU failures

azza21

azza21

azza21

Associate
Joined
22 Mar 2006
Posts
347
Location
Oxfordshire
It is not only Dell customers who have been suffering with the GPU failures in there notebooks (i was one of them), apparently Apple are now accusing nVidia. More unwanted publicity for nVidia from another major company.

Cupertino (CA) – Apple took an unusually hard shot at Nvidia’s credibility yesterday: Apple said that it found that GeForce GPUs used in some Macbook Pro systems are failing, while Nvidia “assured” the company that the supply to Apple was not affected by what appears to be a GPU packaging issue.
Click to expand...

From the Apple website:

“In July 2008, Nvidia publicly acknowledged a higher than normal failure rate for some of their graphics processors due to a packaging defect. At that same time, Nvidia assured Apple that Mac computers with these graphics processors were not affected. However, after an Apple-led investigation, Apple has determined that some MacBook Pro computers with the Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT graphics processor may be affected.”

Apple said that buyers of Macbook Pro 15” and 17” models with Nvidia’s 8600M GT GPU may see “distorted or scrambled video on the computer screen” or “no video on the computer screen (or external display) even though the computer is on.” The affected notebooks were manufactured between May 2007 and September 2008.

The company said that “if the Nvidia graphics processor in your MacBook Pro has failed, or fails within two years of the original date of purchase, a repair will be done free of charge, even if your MacBook Pro is out of warranty.”

Nvidia’s stock followed the general market trend this morning and was down more than 5% to $6.56. Nvidia’s market capitalization has dropped to about $3.66 billion – down from about $10 billion when the GPU issue was made public.
Click to expand...

The problems apple mention are rather similar to the problems i had with my Dell XPS notebook. Why do nVidia keep denying an ever so apparent problem, there attitude towards the whole GPU problem is a joke. Lucky enough for me Dell sorted my XPS notebook out straight away but with regards to nvidia, well the less i say about them the better.

TG Daily link
 
I honestly think with current credit crunch woes and everything else that this may be the beginning of the end for nvidia. HP are now saying that they are experiencing massive failures, Apple too. There will be class action suits flying around soon, and when Apple begin to say they are having notebooks made between May 2007 and September 2008 it kinda proves nvidia knew about this issue ages ago. Their stock is taking a hammering, they may actually fold!
 
3dcandy said:
I honestly think with current credit crunch woes and everything else that this may be the beginning of the end for nvidia. HP are now saying that they are experiencing massive failures, Apple too. There will be class action suits flying around soon, and when Apple begin to say they are having notebooks made between May 2007 and September 2008 it kinda proves nvidia knew about this issue ages ago. Their stock is taking a hammering, they may actually fold!
Click to expand...

so much can change in 12 months, quite scary actually.
 
3dcandy said:
I honestly think with current credit crunch woes and everything else that this may be the beginning of the end for nvidia. HP are now saying that they are experiencing massive failures, Apple too. There will be class action suits flying around soon, and when Apple begin to say they are having notebooks made between May 2007 and September 2008 it kinda proves nvidia knew about this issue ages ago. Their stock is taking a hammering, they may actually fold!
Click to expand...

As much as I think nVidia need a boot in the nads, a slap around the head, and a good talking to, I don't want them to go down, nor do I think they will.

Plus it's not good for the market. Look at things on the CPU side - if AMD were competitive I think the Core i7 range would be launching a good £100 cheaper.
 
I never said I thought they should go - just that current market forces, plus credit crunch and a board that obviously thought they were untouchable = in the poo-poo! I'd hate them to go too, would mean the market stagnates etc. etc. but this will long term force a huge shift in power because the financial implications are huge. Would you buy an NV part now realistically? Now if you're a manufacturer, would you buy anything from NV?
 
HarryPainful said:
No one is too big, look at the Lehman Bros.
Click to expand...

Well its a fact Nvidia Will not go down, no matter what happens they will still keep producing chips, I think worst thing is they could go bankrupt maybe and someone will but then up like what happened to AMD and ATi, cant remember what way round, but they wont go down.
 
[TW]Fox;12683887 said:
Hardly the same thing really, is it? Lehman Bros were by the very nature of their core business involved in risky investments on a daily basis.
Click to expand...

One could argue the case for any other British retail bank at this point... a lot of them AAA-rated for investment purposes, now seeking bajillions of pounds from the UK government...

Nvidia won't disappear, much the same way that Matrox didn't disappear. If they start getting hammered in stocks/product sales, they'll reorganise into a smaller, more focussed entity. Sure, they might be bought out by some other company in the mean time, but they will continue in some form or other.

The likelihood of this happening is somewhat small, however. Nvidia sells something that is in demand and therefore will continue to make at least enough to break even for a good, long while yet.
 
Well considering Apple are ditching Intel and are using Nvidia chipsets in the new range of Macbook Pro's, I don't see Apple being THAT bothered.
 
I don't think that the problem is all the chips are flawed, but that Apple is basically saying NV lied to them about it :(
 
The problem is that all the chips are flawed? They all have the possibility of suffering the same failure due to the manufacturing process, I think...

Edit: Remember, they had initially said it was only one batch that went to HP that had the issues. That quickly turned out to be a can of BS.
 
3dcandy said:
no-one is too big, icelandic bank?
Click to expand...

Please stop demonstrating your complete lack of business understanding and get back to discussing graphics cards. Icelandic Bank's were in trouble because their liabilities were considerably larger than not only their deposits but the GDP of their host country, I somehow doubt Nvidia have this issue.
 
[TW]Fox;12685105 said:
Please stop demonstrating your complete lack of business understanding and get back to discussing graphics cards. Icelandic Bank's were in trouble because their liabilities were considerably larger than not only their deposits but the GDP of their host country, I somehow doubt Nvidia have this issue.
Click to expand...

thanks for pointing out that i'm stupid....I understand perfectly well how business works, have an A Level in economics. my point was that in modern times a country's banks have rarely gone in such a spectacular way. another poster said that someone was too big to go bump. would you personally have said that today that rbs would be nationalised in effect?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom