Blue Ray player or PS3 ?
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probably isnt a good reason
not sure i can recommend a ps3 for bluray playback now unless you dont have a games console. with the price of a stand alone and a 360 equalling that of a ps3 i dont personally think its worth the price. if you want one unit that does it all then fair enough, but i think a 360+standalone represents better value tbh.
I was highlighting the fact that FrankJH suggesting that R5Rich getting a HTPC as well as a standalone was a bad idea was indeed aload of old rubbish.
Blu Ray's are in essesnce just M2TS files and DVD's Vob' files.
The PS3 is hardly in the same league as a HTPC.Its streaming capabilites are flawed and there are a plethora of file play limitations.
As a gaming and Blu ray player its great but If you don't need a to play games then a standalone (now they have dropped to 150) and a HTPC is the far superior option.
The USB HDD function is limited to 4GB files the PS3 will not play sequential vob's like a HTPC from its hard drive it can only play them one file at a time so after one vob plays you have to click on another to carry on watching a film.
The PS3 will not upscale DVD's when playing them from the HDD.
WMV is not supported
Wav Lossless is not supported
you can't skip through a VOB it just plays from the beginning.
For stored digital content the PS3 is hardly ground breaking.
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To the above ^^^^
4gb limit is no problem. I copy over 20gig remuxed 1080p mkvs to my PS3 speedily over a gigabit network.
rename to .mpg and you can fast forward through them at 120x
The firmware has changed a lot
It does play WMVs but only with stereo audio.
4gb limit is no problem. I copy over 20gig remuxed 1080p mkvs to my PS3 speedily over a gigabit network.
rename to .mpg and you can fast forward through them at 120x
The firmware has changed a lot
It does play WMVs but only with stereo audio.
Those file will not play DTS audio only AC3.
All I want to do is have my blurays and DVD's stored on my PC harddrive and I want to play them into my projector with lossless video and audio.
The PS3 cannot do this.
Considering the average bluray M2TS file is 25gb then copying over the content to the PS3 everytime I want to play one is just not going to happen.
Now if I could stream this content from My PC to the PS3 without transcoding or demuxing then it would be a winner.
But I can't so that why I will be building a HTPC for my Cinema room.
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Those file will not play DTS audio only AC3.
All I want to do is have my blurays and DVD's stored on my PC harddrive and I want to play them into my projector with lossless video and audio.
The PS3 cannot do this.
Considering the average bluray M2TS file is 25gb then copying over the content to the PS3 everytime I want to play one is just not going to happen.
Now if I could stream this content from My PC to the PS3 without transcoding or demuxing then it would be a winner.
But I can't so that why I will be building a HTPC for my Cinema room.
Yup you got me on the lossless audio but 640k ac3 is enough for me to cope with until Sony address it.
You can stream remuxed 1080p files over the network fine. You have to be connected via gigabit though. Still got to remux which takes like 10mins
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not having lossless wouldnt bother me all that much tbh. i dont have the speakers to make use of it - i hope you will, easy
not having lossless wouldnt bother me all that much tbh. i dont have the speakers to make use of it - i hope you will, easy
Probably won't the budget is getting bigger day by day
Just ordered some Tannoy F4's for £119 some F1's for 88 and the FC for 49.
This leaves me some money to get a BK sub
I just CBA messing with my video files after I have backed them up.
I just want to access the content as if it were on disc.
The faff is enough to put me off.
HTPC,windows vista media centre and I'm off!
And a Sony BDM 350 will do me just fine. (it has a lan port for firmware updates)
I was excited about using a PS3 but after reading up on it the limitations put me off.
At 299 its hardly cheap considering FPS should not be played with a controller under any circumstances
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No read what I said as that isnt it
he was trying to suggest that the price of a stand alone br deck adn an HTPC wouldnt be much more than a PS3 - and all I suggested was you would save around £50 from not buying a PS3 (over a stand alone), and I have no idea how you can buy an HTPC for much less than 10 times that price
Personally always thought you should leave your tv to upscale anyway - and if you are buying an external drive, rip to a decent quality - so most of the other comments have little foundation also.....from what Ive found
Windows itself isnt faff free - constant updates etc, configuration (esp with what you want to do) isnt easy - and Im not even sure what software players have decent HD surround capability anyway (and that only adds to the cost usuallly)
You are talking about spending £700 or more on an htpc (decent cpu, memory, mobo, hdd, case+psu + Windows CAL and software player for HD sound) - a lot more faff than its worth in most people's books I would suggest, and pc's arent a closed system like a ps3 unless you lock them down so tight (esp Vista) they become awkward to use
Even if you have most of the componants you are still using £700's worth of equipment
Just my 2p's worth (and completely off topic considering the OP)
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tv is the last thing you want to do the scaling, ideally. even the best tv's are bested by software scaling (ffdshow), or even the scaling found in the ps3 for example.
My sammy was fine in the past - and 5090 isnt bad at all to be honest
I dont actually watch that many DVD's anymore - but Ive found no fault so far
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and you probably wont, but there are better alternatives
...you could build a pc to play back 1080p for £250 probably.
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I used a PS3 for my media services for a short while, but in the end found it limited, and went back to using a dedicated htpc with bluray drive. Theres just no hassle with it.
I cant see that happening - £80 for Windows to start with, BR drive £60 (and bundled software is usually stereo only, unless PDVD have changed it)
(OK you could use Ubuntu or something - can you see most even trying to learn let alone install a new OS?)
Cant see much change from £250 incl the case, psu and mobo (and windows + hd drive)
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can be done. you might not see any change, but it can be done. As far as ubuntu goes, well, in many ways its easier than windows is, but its not my os of choice if i were building a htpc. But anyway certainly for £350-£400 you could build a machine that would do it all and play the latest games. Hardware for HD playback is actually pretty cheap now.
With crap TVs absolutely, but top end tvs like the pio kuro range have excellant image processing.
What evidence is there that ffdshow scales better than a top tv?
You could build a descent HTPC for around £500 (cheaper if you go 2nd hand) but its not as easy as the PS3 to set up.
The PS3 is the hassle free choice and has plenty of features (even if you dont need many of them). Its future proof also and Sony are always updating the firmware
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If you have Vista Home Premium setting up a PC to work has a HTPC is a piece of cake.