BBC attacked by Ben Bradshaw for refusal to broadcast emergency fund appeal for Gaza

wilsky said:
I disagree. If its fine for the 'Americans' and the 'Australians' to displace the native Indians and the aborigines 200 years ago, then Isreal has no claim to its land considering the Arabs have lived there for 2,000 years.
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False analogy. Israel is not the Palestinians' native land, and never has been. You can't compare them to the American Indians or Australian Aborigines. They are not indigenous to the region, and never were.

Jews have lived in Israel for around 4,000 years. Arab habitation of Israel is a relatively recent phenomenon (historically speaking) and only reached significant numbers under the former Ottoman Empire.

The Palestinians themselves are one of the newest groups in the region, having drifted into Israel from the surrounding Arab states.
 
stigggeh said:
I think the fact so many are talking about it has done more than any 2 minute appeal anyway ? Look at the publicity its getting, more than a forgetful two minute advert I would probably turn over anyway.

Job done i would say ?
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prob not the best way to go about it, haha :p, but i agree it has gotten more publicity than an advert which most people would have turned over, just need people to act on it

the BBC needs to reamain impartial, however appealing for innocent civilians is hardly taking sides... and on a second note, most people watch a range of channels not just the beeb so the beeb and sky not showing it doesnt matter as most will see it on another channel (maybe :p)
 
Evangelion said:
Because I sincerely doubt that your media is anywhere near as sophisticated, as open, as advanced or as free as the UK's.

Even your police go around beating people up for no good reason.

Have you tried democracy? I can recommend it.
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So what your actually advocating is not listening to his comments based on the fact he's a Greek?

Edit - I actually agree about the BBC. I think it's the most impartial news service in the world after Al Jazeera news. It makes me proud anyhow!
 
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Hellsmk2 said:
So what your actually advocating is not listening to his comments based on the fact he's a Greek? Erm... racist anyone?
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Please don't be childish. Read what I've written.

I have said that his statement would sound more credible coming from someone who lives in Greece. I have also explained what I meant by this.

I did not say that the fact that he lives in Greece is a reason for refusing to listen to him, and I did not advocating ignoring his comments because he is Greek.

On the contrary, I did not even mention his nationality. You were the first to do this. Why did you do this? His nationality is completely irrelevant.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
oh i see the greater picture now , tell us (or me) what is your conclusion on the subject of Macedonia
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Macedonia (or Macedon, to use its old name) was not originally a part of Greece; it was a separate kingdom ruled by Philip of Macedon (and later by his son, Alexander the Great). Under Philip, Macedonia became strong enough to dominate the Greeks, and the city-states were loosely united under his rule.

Today, Macedonia is divided. Part of it remains under Greek occupation, part of it is now an independent republic, and the rest of it is under the control of neighbouring nations (such as Bulgaria).
 
You need to first answer me how do you know media here are of lower standards compared to british media , and what do you know of the coverage on the gaza issue by the media here. Sounds like you are trolling dude.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
You need to first answer me how do you know media here are of lower standards compared to british media
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I think that goes without saying, don't you? Your country isn't even democratic; how do you expect to have a high quality, fully independent media?

and what do you know of the coverage on the gaza issue by the media here.
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I don't know anything about the coverage on the Gaza issue by Greek media. I don't need to. That wasn't my point.

I said: "I sincerely doubt that your media is anywhere near as sophisticated, as open, as advanced or as free as the UK's". And I'm willing to bet that's true.

Sounds like you are trolling dude.
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Oh, the irony!
 
Evangelion can you stop whatever issue you have with the Greek media and let this thread get back on track.
 
Evangelion said:
Macedonia (or Macedon, to use its old name) was not originally a part of Greece; it was a separate kingdom ruled by Philip of Macedon (and later by his son, Alexander the Great). Under Philip, Macedonia became strong enough to dominate the Greeks, and the city-states were loosely united under his rule.

Today, Macedonia is divided. Part of it remains under Greek occupation, part of it is now an independent republic, and the rest of it is under the control of neighbouring nations (such as Bulgaria).
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eh wtf? macedonians were of greek origin and where one of the many kingdoms in a.greece just like sparta and corinth etc speaking greek and writing in greek. Care to elaborate more in a separate thread ?

care to explain us why alexander has a greek name , and was proud of his family tree originating from Hercules? also why were worshiping the 12 gods of olympus and why were they participating in the olympics were only greeks were allowed to? Also why did he attacked persia in revenge of the persian invasion , surely if he wasnt greek he wouldnt give a damn. why he wanted to establish the greek civilization through the end of the world? why greeks fought aside him as far as india?

And why are some slavic people speaking bulgarian having bulgarian surnames are suddenly macedonians when even THEIR first prime minister (
) said in an interview that they are slavic people (who descend in the balkans during the 6th century?)

see now i am justified in the BBC acting as a propaganda channel , although this protectorate name is FYROM the BBC is not having any doubts using the name macedonia in any way possible , making people confused by this and raising doubts.
 
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and to justify my bropaganda comment

a documentary made in the UK about the british involvment in the greek civil war , banned by the BBC (again)

This documentary, which featured interviews with British agents who had taken on action in Greece during the German occupation, was banned from ever being broadcasted again or being sold abroad - although ERT had requested buying it - and was eventually destroyed. Reportage Without Frontiers found the only remaining copy.

The documentary features interviews with the protagonists of the resistance and the civil war, as well as with Sir Geoffrey Chandler, the only living Briton of the members of the British delegation who were in Greece at that time. It also features the creators of the British documentary. Amongst them is Jeremy Isaacs, the founding chief executive of Channel 4, the British TV channel that had broadcasted the program: later on, while being a candidate for the position of general director of the BBC, Isaacs lost the job because he had allowed the airing of the forbidden documentary...
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http://www.rwf.gr/episode1-new.php?lang1=english&id=171
 
How can it be against the BBC's impartiality to do an appeal for innocent children, etc???

There is no appeal for Israel as 3 adults died and they have had minimal damage to buildings (and unlike gaza have not been under a blockade!)

the BBC has been biased with Gaza - treating it as a conflict of 'equals'
 
Mr Thompson said he feared that broadcasting the appeal might compromise the BBC's impartiality.
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Utterly sickening... the appeal has nothing to do with hamas or israel or whatever its people dying.....and this chap has got the cheek to try to politicize it!!

just shocking tbh... its like... "oh we better not try to help people dying because israel wont like that"... :rolleyes:

is there a petition to get this numpty out of his job yet?
 
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