January Transfer Window Thread - rumours and signings here

drunkenmaster said:
The thing is, again, Bigbeard and guys I can't understand how we are "preparing" for outside the top 4 by spending 15mil on a apparently world class player, it makes no sense. THe current squad can finish outside the top 4, why would we spend 15million just to stay outside the top 4?
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I didn't mean preparing in that we are expecting it even if we get Arshavin and everything is geared towards life in the UEFA cup.

Just that the Chairman and Manager see it as a possibility and are prepared to stick by the wage and fee structure rather than break those on a player and still not qualify. I don't think we are exactly busting a gut to buy him tbh.

The current squad is also more than capable of finishing within the top 4. We have just been very, very unlucky with injuries.
 
FrankJH said:
Ronaldo isnt playing THAT much on the left, so shouldnt effect him directly (apart from the general team aspect)

Still undoubtedly a great player, and two goals against WBA will have helped his confidence no end, but he isnt even close to what he was like last year and its not just down to the injury / operation

The team as a whole has a different dynamic, and to be honest Im glad we are less reliant on him now
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He's not playing as well as last season but he IS certainly playing much, much more on the left wing than the right wing.
He's also not playing as badly as many would have you believe, he's averaging one every other game (the ratio strikers wish for) and he has already more than trebled his number of assists from last year.
 
NokkonWud said:
Have we missed him? I'm not too sure. We already have a ridiculous number of midfielders.
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I think we've missed his adaptability plus he is very useful in certain games. No doubt we have a lot of talented midfielders but Id still rather he played than Fletcher, just think he does what Fletcher does a lot better.
 
Boro linked with Vela, would love to sign him but is he really gonna be an asset in a relegation battle ?
 
[ASSE]Hinchy;13391167 said:
I thought you were always complaining that Arsene relies too much on the young players and doesn't buy players in? Now here you are saying that you're buying in quality because the youth squad is coming up short?

Make your mind up. Don't even know why I spend 10mins reading each individual post from you sometimes.

It really gets to me how Arsenal fans can say Wenger has lost his way, especially after all that he has done for the club. Without him you would fall away back into mediocrity which is where you were when he took over.
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young players does not equal arsenal trained players. We bought song and denilson 2-3 years ago who are as good now as they were then. Fabregas was basically the same player as who we got from Barca. Clichy was brought in, not trained as a youth, was as good then as now only because of injury and Cole's form did he not walk straight in. Eboue's been here 4/5 years. RVP, Adeyor, Rosicky, Theo, Diaby, Gallas, Toure, Sagna, Vela, Eduardo, NONE of those players were youth players who came through the ranks, each and every one of them was brought as a fairly decent player who were ready for the first team.

again young is not the same as youth player trained at Arsenal. Wilshire has been at arsenal for like, 8 years or something ridiculous.

Also, if you want to be right, i NEVER complain about relying on young players, not a single time. I don't dislike Song because he's young, its because he's crap. I have no problems with young players and think Vela, Ramsey and Wilshire have been VASTLY underused this year, the difference is they are GOOD. Young/old has nothing to do with it in my eyes, the only problem i have is we are relying on CRAP players, it doesn't matter if they were 35 or 12, they aren't good enough to be in the team.

The problem with our YOUTH SETUP(not our young players) is that its producing almost no one good enough to actually be in a top 4 side. Those that have left, aren't doing particularly well, some are half decent, some are crap, Upson is probably doing the best right now and to be honest, I have no idea how long he was even at Arsenal. But the actual youth players, who have been at Arsenal for 4-5 years and now playing in the reserves, other than Wilshire not a single one looks good enough for a us, and thats a problem. Most other clubs have at least a few of those players coming through. Man U have relied on several this year and have plenty in the squad already.
 
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B1gbeard said:
I didn't mean preparing in that we are expecting it even if we get Arshavin and everything is geared towards life in the UEFA cup.

Just that the Chairman and Manager see it as a possibility and are prepared to stick by the wage and fee structure rather than break those on a player and still not qualify. I don't think we are exactly busting a gut to buy him tbh.

The current squad is also more than capable of finishing within the top 4. We have just been very, very unlucky with injuries.
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We've been somewhat unlucky, but somewhat not. Personally I don't think Theo's anywhere near good enough yet, i mean before his England goals he'd done nothing, and since he hasn't actually been good but since those goals everyones going on about how effective he's been which simply isn't true. Rosicky and Fabregas ARE huge losses, as is Eduardo. But I don't think Wenger would be playing Eduardo anyway, he was barely played last year pre injury, with Adebayor prefered, whose fit now and not getting dropped. Rosicky, Nasri, Theo, we're only missing one winger as he won't play all 3 anyway. So in reality we aren't missing "that" many people. Our cover simply isn't good enough.

The thing is, we don't need Arshavin to compete for titles, we need a DM, and in general its the star strikers/attacking midfielders of the world on silly wages, why aren't we buying in a few 2-3m rated DM's as our youth setups, reserves and first team are all lacking DM's. It wouldn't be breaking the bank but we're still not even willing to do that, while we are willing to ***** 15million on a player that might not even get into the team with everyone else fit? its pure insanity.

seriously, 5million a even a not great DM in a position we lack desparately. But he's going to spend 15mil on a player that when Fabregas is back isn't actually even a certain first team player??? Wengers completely and utterly lost his way, I don't think its anything to do with not wanting to spend, or not wanting to break the bank as those excuses only cover say, why we aren't spending £30mil on David Villa or someone, a certain first team player of true quality. Personally that would seem FAR better value than a old unproven player from a crap league who might not be good and might not even be starting next year.
 
[ASSE]Hinchy;13391167 said:
It really gets to me how Arsenal fans can say Wenger has lost his way, especially after all that he has done for the club. Without him you would fall away back into mediocrity which is where you were when he took over.
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Exactly, the man could moan that the board haven't given him enoughfunds to stay in touch with the top challengers. Instead he goes about bringing up cheap and young players as he knows that's the only option right now.

Arsenal do not have the money to compete with the top 3.

I think for the next 5 years it's going to be tough for arsenal to get a look in with the champions league and just getting to the top 4 will be an achievement.

Someone has to be moved out of the top 4 with other clubs getting billionaires. I feel it's a nailed on cert that the team to fall by the side for now will be arsenal.
 
Hearing rumours Defoe has broken his foot in training, would be a massive blow for Spurs and I'd expect them to panic buy another striker before the window shuts :(

Hope it's not true!
 
Nolan is a canny buy for 4m like. Pretty pleased, shame about our new injuries, dont think we will ever catch a break with injuries.

Taylor for 1m is decent if it happens, after some Veluso but im sure that would be a much more expensive unrealistic buy...

Now get rid of Nsomnia because he is a git, and get rid of Owen.

Shay is off for sure, hope we get 10m at least because anything lower is a steal for such a class keeper, will miss him greatly but no bad feelings whatsoever for the guy
 
Linoge said:
Realistically what do you fellas reckon Keane would go for right this second if he was sold in this transfer window?
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Depends who's buying. If the City (who are rumoured to be interested) came in for him then we'd get our money back and i wouldn't rule out making a profit on him either. Even if it were Spurs then i seriously doubt we'd take that much of a loss on him either. He's a far better player than Defoe and they spent £15.75m on him.

Specifically answering your question; we wouldn't sell him now unless we got an offer too good to turn down, which would be at least what we spent (£19m). It's more realistic that he'll go in the summer and for around £15-16m.
 
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