help overclocking i7 on asus gene 2

ejr, you aren't being serious are you?

You are basically saying Sacha doesn't know what he's talking about because he only registered on OcUK's forums in Septemeber?!?!

Where in gods name did you pull that out of? :confused:

That is retarded, seriously.. you've trashed the OP's thread as well in the process..

It's clowns like you who ruin this forum.

Like bifday already said, just ignore this fool sacha, you don't have to prove anything to him..
 
ejr, you aren't being serious are you?

You are basically saying Sacha doesn't know what he's talking about because he only registered on OcUK's forums in Septemeber?!?!

Where in gods name did you pull that out of? :confused:

That is retarded, seriously.. you've trashed the OP's thread as well in the process..

It's clowns like you who ruin this forum.

Like bifday already said, just ignore this fool sacha, you don't have to prove anything to him..

The only retarded thing/clown-like action is you not reading the whole thread. As I pointed out earlier, my main reason for not believing that sacha35 is a "world-class overclocker" is the fact that he posted settings that would immediately set the OPs CPU to 4.2GHz, with no mention of testing for stability or monitoring temperatures.

I would have thought that someone with such vast purported knowledge on the subject would have advised a more considered and careful approach.

The fact that he is a newly registered user only adds to my suspicions that he is an imposter.

It's my choice not to believe him so if you don't like it, tough. Feel free to blindly believe what you want though.

As for trashing the thread, I guess you don't understand irony - your post is full of it. I gave the OP some actual settings to try and replied to specific points directed at me, whereas you have posted seemingly just to insult me.

I let you all bow down to the mighty sacha35 once again.
 
My input on the sasha vs ocuk debate
CPU Ratio: 21 #requires turbo mode to be on
Base Clock: 200
DRAM Frequency: 1603 #would be x6 or x8 bsck, i.e. 1200 or 1600. Not 1603
UCLK Frequency: 3208 #likewise, integer multiples of bsck only
QPI Link Rate: 7218 #and again
CPU Differential Amplitude: 800 mV #probably right, but is board specific
CPU Voltage: 1.23750 #chip specific, probably underestimated for 4.0
QPI/DRAM Voltage: 1.35 #chip specific, probably overestimated for 4.0
DRAM Voltage: 1.65681 #My board offers 1.64 or 1.66V. This is six sig fig => unlikely
Hyper-Threading: Off
Turbo-Mode: Off #yet you've said a multiplier of x21
Load-Line Calibration (LLC): Enabled
Disable C state
Disable CPU spread spectrum
Disable PCI-E spread spectrum
Disable CE1
Disable TM function
You may need to raise your CPU voltage a bit from what I have shown but these settings should give you a good start.
In short the settings posted feature internal contradictions and impossible to set values.

@Sasha by all means give a reason why the settings suggested make no sense whatsoever, otherwise I'm going to have to agree with the person who said username is not proof of identity.

@The OP, i7 overclocking is fairly straightforward. Set uncore multi to double ram multi, or slightly over. x16 is a good start. qpi multi to x32. Ram multi to x8. Turn off the various power saving options.

Set ram voltage to 1.65V, qpi to 1.25V, vcore to 1.2V. Increase bsck then stability test, again and again until the stability test fails. At this point you may need more vcore, or more qpi, or lower temperatures. Try the first two, if neither helps come back here or call it a day.

That should be good up to 200 bsck, after which things get harder. If your cooling isn't good enough things will get hard before then.
 
mmm to be honest i wouldn't go for 4.2Ghz straight off the bat with the cooler you have.
i dont know anyone on here but have always found Jonj678s posts to be informative and correct so i advice you to take his advice.

the gene is known for getting a very hot Northbridge so make sure you have some active cooling if going for high overclocks.

i would personally keep HT on its what makes the 920 such a great chip with it off you might aswell have bought a 750 :(
 
My input on the sasha vs ocuk debate

In short the settings posted feature internal contradictions and impossible to set values.

@Sasha by all means give a reason why the settings suggested make no sense whatsoever, otherwise I'm going to have to agree with the person who said username is not proof of identity.

@The OP, i7 overclocking is fairly straightforward. Set uncore multi to double ram multi, or slightly over. x16 is a good start. qpi multi to x32. Ram multi to x8. Turn off the various power saving options.

Set ram voltage to 1.65V, qpi to 1.25V, vcore to 1.2V. Increase bsck then stability test, again and again until the stability test fails. At this point you may need more vcore, or more qpi, or lower temperatures. Try the first two, if neither helps come back here or call it a day.

That should be good up to 200 bsck, after which things get harder. If your cooling isn't good enough things will get hard before then.
You obviously no nothing about this M/B or ASUS products, for once get a life and end this now, you two have totally corrupted this thread and started to bring another respected forum into disrepute, I ask once again for an admin to now close or clean this thread because two people that know nothing have nothing better to do than say things they know nothing about.

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I'm certain that Intel runs these at nominally integer multiples, but I'm not all that surprised to find it's out by a few Hz in the bios. It's even possible that Asus quote dram voltage to six sig figures while Gigabyte do it to 3, though it seems very unlikely and is absent from your image. However turbo off and multi of 21 is definitely false, and a remarkably novice mistake for the UK's number 1 overclocker to make. For that matter who the hell would identify themselves as such?

You've dropped to the level of personal insults. I've owned two Asus boards before their woeful customer support turned me to Gigabyte, and I have spent a long time tweaking the P5Q premium and my UD5. Certainly enough time to notice what turbo mode means.

Currently it looks like you've found someone online who is respected in the ocuk community but not registered here, and have chosen to impersonate him. As such your suggestion that I get a life doesn't hit me very hard. However in truth I don't care in the slightest if you've done so, I'll evaluate you based solely on what you write here. At present you've offered the OP an incomplete list of settings that are vanishingly unlikely to work then become hostile and aggressive when called on it.
 
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ive been reading sacha35 reviews of the ASUS mobos and found them to be very informative, so he obliviously knows what he is doing but on the other hand if the gene is anything like the Rampage the settings given wouldn't work for most 920s, only the best ones tbh.
As for calling him a faker i dont think anyone is in a position to say that, until he can explain why he give the settings he gave...perhaps there is something we are missing, certainly turning HT off would need less volts and wouldnt effect benchmarks if you was planning on posting on HWBOT, but i wouldnt know as ive always left it on.
as for loadline calibration ive always left it on aswell even while benching at 4.6
tbh the op needs to be told how to overclocl not just given settings that may or maynot work, but saying that you cant go wrong with 1.3 vcore and 1.3 qpi at 20/200 for 4GHz ona rampage :)
 
JonJ678 - I think an ASUS BIOS update gives the option of a static x21 CPU Multi - it did on my old P6T Deluxe (if my mind isn't playing tricks on me) . Despite this, and considering all previous evidence, I find the defendant, "Best Overclocker Ever"!!!! (now and forever mind, not just now).
 
Grilled cheese.

I apologise for any offence caused, confusion made, or salad dresssed. I personally don't buy sacha's story.

[IGNORANCE] LLC [/IGNORANCE] Bad point, poorly made.
 
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Sorry guys perhaps I get a bit carried away, in this I mean I go for these sort of clocks right away out of the box, being an extreme overclocker 4 gig is the norm for me on air so giving advice I would just go for the 4gig right away as this is how I start and then work my way upwards with better cooling.

I also apologise for any offence I may have caused, it was not my intension.

In future I will be a little kinder to members and post some basic overclocking tips and settings if asked again.
 
It's Christmas folks and it's snowing, lets have some love in the air :D

On topic, I'd agree that the OP needs to start basic, with no prior OC'ing knowledge jumping to 4.2Ghz would be silly. Small increments and learn as you go.
 
Still.....no one has explained why HT should be turned off. I know it provides only a small benefit, but if you're the extreme overclocker you are sacha35, surely you can provide some evidence stating your reasoning behind it?

I recognised your username (have seen you featured on Custom PC mag and on HWBot) so was expecting some reasoned, in-depth, advice. Instead you just went off on one. Chillllllll......
 
Still.....no one has explained why HT should be turned off. I know it provides only a small benefit, but if you're the extreme overclocker you are sacha35, surely you can provide some evidence stating your reasoning behind it?

I recognised your username (have seen you featured on Custom PC mag and on HWBot) so was expecting some reasoned, in-depth, advice. Instead you just went off on one. Chillllllll......

Unless you are going to be encoding or using all threads of the CPU then there will be no point in having it switched on, by switching HT off the CPU will run much cooler which will aid in better overclocks, for game's and single thread applications.

The main problem has always been heat; as soon as a CPU starts to get hot you will start to have problems.

Having HT switched off does not affect performance one but in single thread applications at all, This is why we run super pi 32m to see what is the most we can get with regards results over at Hwbot we switch it off as it gives us more headroom for better clocks.

The main benefit of the socket 1366 platform is the bandwidth it offers over duel channel memory systems like 1156, the gain can be around 5 to 10 % purely because the bandwidth the triple channel offers.

Thanks for taking the time to look my user name up; you will also see I have done a few bits of filming with ***** TV and Intel as well to the list you have shown.
 
If an admin can clean this thread up it would be much appreciated as this has gone right of the topic

hi mate - good to see you over here

the thread just needs to calm down, no point me taking action

please bear in mind that a lot of people looking for overclocking advice on these forums are not using high end/extreme cooling so may need to take the 'babysteps' approach to overclocking and not just wade in at 4.2+ immediatly
i see what you mean about 4ghz being the norm all day on air [ive done 3000+ 4ghz air overclocks] but you need to remember that most people havent got much experience and many dont ever read the sticky threads that explain HOW to overclock

my recent overclocks have been pretty high but generally have HT off

i leave it on for 24/7 as do most people [even though i dont really need the HT stats that i have access to from my chip]


OT
some impressive results you have there

were they dice/ss/ln?
 
I run similar settings that sacha posted on my rampage gene

i however use a 20 multi for 4ghz oc i have HT on and i run a slightly lower vcore.

its a good place to start if your unfamiliar with i7 overclocking.

Edit sacha have you attended an i series LAN events ? If you have ive met you :P, Helpful chaps the benchtec guys.
 
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hi mate - good to see you over here

the thread just needs to calm down, no point me taking action

please bear in mind that a lot of people looking for overclocking advice on these forums are not using high end/extreme cooling so may need to take the 'babysteps' approach to overclocking and not just wade in at 4.2+ immediatly
i see what you mean about 4ghz being the norm all day on air [ive done 3000+ 4ghz air overclocks] but you need to remember that most people havent got much experience and many dont ever read the sticky threads that explain HOW to overclock

my recent overclocks have been pretty high but generally have HT off

i leave it on for 24/7 as do most people [even though i dont really need the HT stats that i have access to from my chip]


OT
some impressive results you have there

were they dice/ss/ln?

Fully taken on board what you have said, I am sorry again I just take it for granted that everyone knows how to overclock a bit, this is my bad going in this high to start with for a newbie.

The clocks I got was with my three stage cascade I built which does -130c, still think I can get a bit more from this CPU with few more volts but don't want to push too hard at the moment, not until I hopefully get a gulftown.


I run similar settings that sacha posted on my rampage gene

i however use a 20 multi for 4ghz oc i have HT on and i run a slightly lower vcore.

its a good place to start if your unfamiliar with i7 overclocking.

Edit sacha have you attended an i series LAN events ? If you have ive met you :P, Helpful chaps the benchtec guys.

yes i have been at a two lan events i33 and i34, i33 was new for me and I had to show the new Intel skulltrail at the time at this event, I did not know that ***** TV was also was going to be there as Intel had arranged for them to film me, lucky I took a world record at that event when being filmed which was good.

The i34 event I was on the Intel stand when the E8600 first came out and managed to clock it to 6Gig plus, you should have seen all the crowds come over when this was announced.
 
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