All muslims as a group then, semantics.
Words mean things. Different words mean different things. This is important.
Once again, you lie.
Unlike you, I am not relying on lies.
Please stop making things up and claiming that I stated them.
Islamic protest march planned for Wootton Basset
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Words mean things. Different words mean different things. This is important.
Once again, you lie.
Unlike you, I am not relying on lies.
Please stop making things up and claiming that I stated them.
Please explain why this is not racist, as it says moderate muslims are a threat as they are more likely to succeed than Extremists?
This states that the British Muslim Council denounce these exreme acts partly because they make Islam look bad, but also because it affects their own plans at world domination. How is that not Islamophobic, you are clearly stating that the BMC which represents moderate islam in this country is part of a global plot to conquer the world.
Islam is not a Bronze-Age religion, you should study your subject before villifiying it so.
The second part is an extremist interpretation of Islam, the majority do not believe such rubbish.
Here you deny you made such an assertion, which you clearly did in the quote above.
The fastest growing religion in Britain at the moment is Catholicism, due mainly to the influx of Eastern Europeans. All religions include seeking converts. Have you never heard of the inquistion?
Again an extremist interpretation of Islam and not followed by the majority of Muslims.
You seem to reading an awful lot of extreme views, and that you could not find a muslim willing to talk to you about such rubbish is hardly suprising.
There you go again, accusing Muslims of attempting to conquer the UK and turn it into an Islamic state. Utter rubbish.
That you cannot see that your view as stated in the above quotes you made, not I, are Islamophobic is franky very disappointing.
My opinion is that The BMC is truely disgusted by the extreme views and act that a minority in its religion spread. It has no ulterior motive to make the UK or the world an Islamic State. My opinion is also that the majority of muslims do not follow the extreme version of Islam as you state is the case.
In all walks of life, whether politics, religion, sport etc there are a minority who have extreme views, this is not representative of the whole and that is the same for Islam.
I am not lying, you just cannot face the truth of what you have said.
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Hahahahah, how can it have been my statement when it was quoted from your post.
also claiming that my interpretation of your statement gives me ownership of your statement is silly.
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Yes words do mean things, and a single word can mean many things depending upon the context. In this context it means group, which is plainly obvious. You use semantics to defend an undefensible position. See meaning 4.
race 1 n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.
5. Biology a. An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies.
b. A breed or strain, as of domestic animals.
6. A distinguishing or characteristic quality, such as the flavor of a wine.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Race
it would seem we operate on different educational levels, so I'll stop discussing this with you as its unfair as you obviously can't keep up or comprehend what I am saying.
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this is from the local swindon paper:
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n...tton_Bassett_/
it would seem to be a PR exercise rather than an actual intention to do it.
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n...tton_Bassett_/
it would seem to be a PR exercise rather than an actual intention to do it.
That's kind of the whole point, these guys want to cause as big a rift as possible. Unfortunately all the publicity/keyboard warriors this is attracting is falling right into their hands. :/
Surely that means "all humans considered as a group" so humanity is a race and not "individual groups of humans". The easy distinction why being a Muslim isn't a race is that you can choose to be a muslim and you can choose to no longer be a muslim, you cannot choose to be black and then choose to no longer be black.
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Where do you get the idea that will happen? The British people know their place under New Labour and that is to be walked over by anyone who wants to do so. Even though it is an army town, you won't see any resistance.
Semantics. what you describe would be considered under meanings 1 or 2. Its not really important, as I used the word to mean group and not a genetic characteristic. Angilion just picked up on that to avoid explaining his postion. As he was more comfortable with the word group I edited the original post anyway.
Besides the word "Race" in context of people is purely a social construct which has a wide semantic range and can be attributed to groups of humans, whether by nationality, religion or genetic attributes. In reality there is only one race, the human race.
Black or Asian Or White isnt truly a "Race" either, that is Ethnicity, but again its semantics and irrelevent as the meaning was obvious.
There is always the Nation of Islam....
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Will we ever see a major Islamic march in protest at Muslim extremists in the UK ? I won't hold my breath
Why should Muslims as a group be required to prove themselves as opposed to the barbaric shedding of innocent blood. Nobody suggests, for example, that Catholics must take to the streets to protest paedophilia among the clergy. Instead, the focus in the paedophilia scandals is on those criminally responsible. As should be the case here, yet people wish to shift blame to the Muslim population in general.
I've showed this site to a few Muslim friends of mine. All have thought that these people are disgusting slime.
The guy who heads that organisation is an extremist nut who needs to be deported. He is not representative of the millions of Muslim in the UK or world.
The guy who heads that organisation is an extremist nut who needs to be deported. He is not representative of the millions of Muslim in the UK or world.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...st-Islamic-extremist-march-military-town.html
The hate preacher organising a march of Islamic extremists through the streets of Wootton Bassett sparked outrage today by comparing British troops fighting in Afghanistan to Nazi stormtroopers.
As more than 200,000 people signed an internet petition objecting to the march, Anjem Choudary said he had chosen to protest in the town - renowned for honouring soldiers killed in Afghanistan - because it would attract 'maximum attention'.
But in remarks designed to cause maximum offence, Choudary compared fallen British heroes to Nazi stormtroopers and the September 11 and July 7 terrorists. He even claimed his plan was backed by families of servicemen and women.
'The same could be said about the Germans fighting for Nazism in the Second World War,' he said. 'Those involved in 7/7 and 9/11 considered themselves to be soldiers.
'How would the British people feel if there was a parade for those who carried out 9/11 or 7/7?'
Choudary said 500 of his radical group Islam4UK would carry 'symbolic coffins' in memory of the Muslim civilians 'murdered by merciless' coalition forces.
Well said, agree 100%.
and throw shoes at them.
Source CNN Website after the Bush Shoegate incident at a Baghdad press interview
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Well said Er no utter #### !
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Why is it utter ****, as you put it? why should they do something that other religious groups are not expected to do?