BT Line rental connection charge

What is Local Loop Unbundling?

Local Loop Unbundling (LLU) enables operators to connect directly to the consumer via BT's copper local loops and then add their own equipment to offer broadband and other services. This process involves operators accessing BT’s local exchange buildings to connect to BT’s network of copper lines which connect them to homes and businesses.

There are two types of unbundled line:

* A fully unbundled line gives operators the exclusive use of the copper line.
* A shared access line only gives operators the use of the high frequency channel used for broadband and will also be used by the customer's fixed-line voice provider.

Ofcom believes that development of the LLU market, to allow operators to target infrastructure investment and to develop scale in the creation of high-speed data services, will be critical in ensuring a fully competitive and innovative telecoms market for the long term.
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You may have to get a BT voice line after all :p

Hopefully o2 can just unbundle the broadband side of things. After your contract is done with BT you could move to a fully unbundled solution from o2 if it saved you some money.

Either way BT are getting your money :p Either you pay them directly or the ISP has to pay them. Even for fully unbundled solutions I believe BT gets paid for the use of their copper lines.

Sadly, BT can charge what they like for re-connecting your line, and looks like Offcom have decided their £125 charge is reasonable.
 
GeX said:
you need a BT line, and then once you have your phone number contact o2.

HOWEVER.. what exchange are you on? I have recently moved, and had a line put in by BT. I had it installed free by signing up for an 18month contract (must make 10 chargeable calls a month), paying with DD and paperless billing gets the cost down to £11.75 a month. I then went to O2 to get the ADSL sorted out, and found they could not offer me LLU even they had equipment in the exchange (SLSF) as it was at capacity.

So, what exchange are you looking at?
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Winton exchange in Bournemouth. I live so close to the damn thing I could probably go and hook up my own line! It was LLU enabled for o2 as of the 12th of this month, so I guess they would be doing well to be upto capacity already?

Having to make 10 chargeable calls a month sounds like a bit of a ballache. I don't even intend to have a phone connected to the line. Would a 5 second call to my mobile in the morning be sufficient? (If I were on the free evening and weekend package).
 
Adrianr said:
Having to make 10 chargeable calls a month sounds like a bit of a ballache. I don't even intend to have a phone connected to the line. Would a 5 second call to my mobile in the morning be sufficient? (If I were on the free evening and weekend package).
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I signed up with the above offer. I haven't used the landline to make any calls for about two months and they haven't got in touch so you should be fine :)
 
BT have to charge a certain amount because ofcom state that it has to be that amount to be fair for other competitors to offer the services and make money. It isn't BT that chose that price.

You have to have a BT line first to make sure that you have a working line to your premises before they will switch it over to another service provider. This is because the broadband company want to make sure that the line is to a good enough standard for the broadband to work correctly. PSTN lines will work down one leg and on a dodgy line, but broadband is much more demanding.
 
Ofcom do not set the connection fee for voice service. It's completely deregulated and only shot up after Ofcom agreed to stop regulating the market.
For once, it isn't Ofcom's fault :p

The rest's just nonsense. The ISP's need a number for their ordering systems (and, in the case of the LLUers with <100% coverage, to make sure that they can provide a service at all), they don't care whether it's "a good enough standard for the broadband" or not - in part because they don't have a clue till there's an ADSL service on it...
 
Super quick call to BT had my order changed from 12 month contract + £124.99 charge to 18 months and no charge. Win. Now to find out if o2 can offer my LLU service at my local exchange.

One more quick question.. I've seen mention of this Quidco £100 cashback offer used with the o2 Premium broadband package. How on earth does it work? It just directs me to the o2 site to carry on as normal, how will it know to give me £100, and what on earth can I do with it once I've got it?

Second question: Just spoke to o2 who said there was no LLU service at my local exchange, yet SamKnows is telling me it has been enabled, does this just mean it's full (The BE wiki page of exchanges says they can offer a service there)? With no LLU does this also make o2 broadband a bad deal?
 
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It sticks a tracking cookie in your browser, so that O2 know you arrived via TradeDoubler or whatever affiliate network O2 and Qudco both use.
The money arrives at Quidco and you can have it either BACSed into your bank account or paid to a paypal account, minus a £5 a year fee (which comes out of your cashback).
 
tolien said:
It sticks a tracking cookie in your browser, so that O2 know you arrived via TradeDoubler or whatever affiliate network O2 and Qudco both use.
The money arrives at Quidco and you can have it either BACSed into your bank account or paid to a paypal account, minus a £5 a year fee (which comes out of your cashback).
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Blimey, good show. Well o2 have the 30 day trial so I'l give it a whirl and see what's what.
 
Just did a pretty fast call with a lady called Helen. Mentioned the offer at the begining of the call and now I'm not paying the £125 setup fee and on a 18 month contract

They seem to be on the ball with the offer and know of it.

Good luck whoever else is trying to get the offer.
 
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