Forza 3 Sound Crackling?
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Give it a rest with CPU Load being 100%, that's non-sensical as a reason on many levels, or are you suggesting that my 360 is more powerful, so doesn't have 100% CPU load, so doesn't make the noises?
Some people don't hear it, because for a lot of people there is nothing to hear for them, it doesn't affect everyone, I can categorically state that mine makes no horrific pops/crackles, despite hundreds of hours of playing with a 5.1 setup or headphones, or are you talking about stuff so subtle that you wouldn't notice it, or care about it? I assumed we where on about loud pops etc that are quite jarring on the ears..
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Well it was a reason put forward by one of T10's sound engineers I know it doesn't explain everything, he made two posts said too much and was never heard of again.
I have no idea what you consider subtle or horrific so I will leave it at that.
It's well known that 'pops' in digital audio can occur due to pauses/glitches in the delivery of data to some audio decoding algorithms/hardware. It was quite prevalent on many PC sound cards years ago, the reason was quite often that indeed the CPU load peaked at 100%, choking the flow of audio data, I think he might have been hypothesizing more then anything, if they knew what the issue was, there are plenty of ways to work around it, so would have been in one of the patches, I'm sure..
My reasoning..
1. Modern hardware/software deals with gaps in data much better, they inject no noise rather then sudden impulses (pops) when data is missing, as it's too annoying to the user
2. Since it's a closed platform, and you can see that the effect for most people is varied, I certainly don't get anything that would be remotely considered annoying, I've youtube'd people showing the issue, so I know exactly what to look out for. I've had the very very infrequent audio glitch, but it's never 'popped', it's always been either no sound/delayed sound/incorrect volume of sound momentarily. It's hard to believe that some people's CPU's would be fully loaded and others not, especially if it occurs all the time for some people, and they aren't doing anything different.
3. If it was CPU Loading, and so easy to spot, their are very very easy work arounds, e.g. filtering impulses caused by gaps in data, this would remove the pops, and leave just odd stuttery sounds. A sound engineer records/mixes and deals with that side of things, he won't be coding audio codecs in the game and how they interact, which is why my skepticism exists, especially when you hear it on a forum, a place that game developers engineers are not allowed to post on.
As I say, I am 100% believing everyone that has the issue, it absolutely ranges from some people not having it, to some people having it every once in a while, to others have it on just about all the time.. CPU loading should be the same for all people in the same situations, and you can find plenty of videos/audio of people showing the issue, which is so obvious that anyone with ears can hear it.
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Mr BadFrog said:
From the Turn10 Studios Blog 2008/07/07 Introducing...Team T10's Official Roster
Forza Motorsport 3 Game Credits
OK, I see your source, thankyou for that, and I apologise for not taking it at face value, but it's hard to know what information comes from random word of mouth etc.
However, this isn;t completely clear,
That sounds like pops/crackles are during certain race conditions, but the static noise is when the CPU goes over 100%, so the notion that Pops are due to CPU loading would seem incorrect.
Further more,
I've even fired up Forza again and gone to listen for the issues, funnily, as I mentioned above, I do get the very infrequent audio issues, which sounds like a sudden volume change in the audio effect (when going over kerbs, it could be 'static'), but it's quite infrequent, and not 'annoying'.. He seems to think that there is a situation that may occur that makes it a lot worse, so clearly some people are going to be hit hard by this issue, some aren't.
I have listened to recordings made by people of the pops/crackles around sebring (for example) and the pops/crackles they've recorded are indeed quite bad, in fact they seem inordinately loud compared to the actual road noise, when I ran the same car around the track, My audio levels seem completely different, road noise etc is much reduced in mine, and any unwanted audio seems very well subued. I quickly swapped views, as these have different audio mixes (I drive in bumper cam), and some views have very over amplified noise levels compared to others, but I can't be bothered to run around a track listening for somthing that is very much subdued and infrequent for me.
However, this isn;t completely clear,
That sounds like pops/crackles are during certain race conditions, but the static noise is when the CPU goes over 100%, so the notion that Pops are due to CPU loading would seem incorrect.
Further more,
Sounds like some 'variabililty' in it to me, that they haven't quantified yet.
I've even fired up Forza again and gone to listen for the issues, funnily, as I mentioned above, I do get the very infrequent audio issues, which sounds like a sudden volume change in the audio effect (when going over kerbs, it could be 'static'), but it's quite infrequent, and not 'annoying'.. He seems to think that there is a situation that may occur that makes it a lot worse, so clearly some people are going to be hit hard by this issue, some aren't.
I have listened to recordings made by people of the pops/crackles around sebring (for example) and the pops/crackles they've recorded are indeed quite bad, in fact they seem inordinately loud compared to the actual road noise, when I ran the same car around the track, My audio levels seem completely different, road noise etc is much reduced in mine, and any unwanted audio seems very well subued. I quickly swapped views, as these have different audio mixes (I drive in bumper cam), and some views have very over amplified noise levels compared to others, but I can't be bothered to run around a track listening for somthing that is very much subdued and infrequent for me.
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played the game yesterday and cant say i noticed
i did notice that the force feedback(MS wheel) isn't there all the time when going over the curbs, it comes and goes
i did notice that the force feedback(MS wheel) isn't there all the time when going over the curbs, it comes and goes