HIS 6970 set up

[andyr]

i'm using 10.12 on my 6970 Works fine idle temps after gaming are 50C @ 26% auto fan load i does run quite hot upto 90C, I can tell you this is runs my l4d2 perfect but l4d2 is mainly limited by CPU as is black ops only thing i can suggest is reinstall the drivers.. and restart the runtime of CC, Also make sure the game is not some how running in window mode.

in info in ccc do yours show 10.12 or 10.11

 

[[WU-TANG]GZA]

Hi , i get 60 fps in l4d2 with aax8 running at 1920 x 1200 with clock at default and cpu at 4.0 ghz

had to finish the campaign

Thnx mate. Pretty similar then, is that constant 60fps or like 50-75 ?

BTW what are your temps like - just playing l4d then on auto fan control and it was like 90-96c !! Which is ridiculous and yes omg the fan noise is incredible!!

Might send this back tbh....

 

[andyr]

Thnx mate. Pretty similar then, is that constant 60fps or like 50-75 ?

BTW what are your temps like - just playing l4d then on auto fan control and it was like 90-96c !! Which is ridiculous and yes omg the fan noise is incredible!!

Might send this back tbh....

Hi ill check the temps in a bit but the frames was constant at 60

 

[[WU-TANG]GZA]

Hi ill check the temps in a bit but the frames was constant at 60

Think mine was dipping between 40-60 : / Maybe I just got a DOA card or summat.

Thanks btw

 

[J.D]

Think mine was dipping between 40-60 : / Maybe I just got a DOA card or summat.

Thanks btw

Dead On Arrival . Or are you just using the acronym and coming up with your own words? (Damaged On Arrival?).

If it came dead and you brought it back to life then good work .

 

[[WU-TANG]GZA]

Dead On Arrival . Or are you just using the acronym and coming up with your own words? (Damaged On Arrival?).

If it came dead and you brought it back to life then good work .

Get the crash cart out STAT !

Nah just got it wrong - it's not dead no but damaged - who knows?

 

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Hi ill check the temps in a bit but the frames was constant at 60

Now I know that neither of us are running rigs like they do in the benches on Tom's Harware (main difference to mine being the i7 980x) but looking at this a 5870 gets 123fps on full settings and we're getting 60?

That just doesn't seem right to me.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/2010-gaming-graphics-charts-high-quality/Left4Dead-2,2476.html

 

[J.D]

Get the crash cart out STAT !

Nah just got it wrong - it's not dead no but damaged - who knows?

PC Doctor is in the hizouse .

I hope it's not damaged .

Now I know that neither of us are running rigs like they do in the benches on Tom's Harware (main difference to mine being the i7 980x) but looking at this a 5870 gets 123fps on full settings and we're getting 60?

That just doesn't seem right to me.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/2010-gaming-graphics-charts-high-quality/Left4Dead-2,2476.html

Yeah, something is definitely up.

I'm kind of wanting to throw an icy snowball at you to draw just a little blood as I've been advised by OCUK to just refuse the package of the 5850 that's on it's way so I can order my 6950 but yours and that other guy who wasn't impressed going from a 4870 to 6950 are making me doubt it and just accept the MSI 5850 when it arrives tomorrow. Arrggghhh .

But if a 5870 is pulling those FPS and you're struggling then maybe something is forced in the CCC?.

 

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PC Doctor is in the hizouse .

I hope it's not damaged .



Yeah, something is definitely up.

I'm kind of wanting to throw an icy snowball at you to draw just a little blood as I've been advised by OCUK to just refuse the package of the 5850 that's on it's way so I can order my 6950 but yours and that other guy who wasn't impressed going from a 4870 to 6950 are making me doubt it and just accept the MSI 5850 when it arrives tomorrow. Arrggghhh .

But if a 5870 is pulling those FPS and you're struggling then maybe something is forced in the CCC?.

Yeah that was my first thought bloody CCC (starting to believe the ATi crap drivers chat I read so much, never had a problem before mind). I've had a look in CCC and changed everything to ' use application settings ' and made sure vsync is off etc but still....I have to play with x2 anti alias which give me like 130-160fps in l4d but I'm pretty darn sure that's what I had on my 4890 and gave me 140 fps too.

I'm gonna try uninstalling the 10.12a drivers and just go with the 10.12 drivers from the AMD website and see if that improves anything.

The fps and the temps man both are just so wrong.....

idling at like 58c and left4dead load at 96c

Cannot stress enough how loud the cooler is too - it's almost funny.

I'll report back with my 10.12 results.

Why dont you just get a 5870?

EDIT: I kinda hope it is damaged and I get a none damaged one that's not so warm and doesn't struggle with l4d on max settings at 1920 x 1080.

 

[andyr]

It does say TH-Timedemo/Street against that benchmark and not in game , dont know how you run that demo

Tom's hardware :- in the drop down box if you select 3dm06 the max is 25500 , I get 26500 so i guess its not under performing in that .

 

[kitch9]

It appears there's a performance anomaly in L4D2 with aa with the current drivers. It's already been reported.

My 6970 maxxes out at about 80c with auto fan hitting 38% so nice and quiet in a small htpc case, so not sure what's going off with your card.

 

[J.D]

Yeah that was my first thought bloody CCC (starting to believe the ATi crap drivers chat I read so much, never had a problem before mind). I've had a look in CCC and changed everything to ' use application settings ' and made sure vsync is off etc but still....I have to play with x2 anti alias which give me like 130-160fps in l4d but I'm pretty darn sure that's what I had on my 4890 and gave me 140 fps too.

I'm gonna try uninstalling the 10.12a drivers and just go with the 10.12 drivers from the AMD website and see if that improves anything.

The fps and the temps man both are just so wrong.....

idling at like 58c and left4dead load at 96c

Cannot stress enough how loud the cooler is too - it's almost funny.

I'll report back with my 10.12 results.

Why dont you just get a 5870?

EDIT: I kinda hope it is damaged and I get a none damaged one that's not so warm and doesn't struggle with l4d on max settings at 1920 x 1080.

I hope a move around of the drivers helps as there is something wrong here. A 5850 beats the 4890 pretty easily so the 6970 should destroy the 4890.

The temps do seem a bit crazy too. Are they higher than everyone else?. In fact they must be or you'd realise yours is the norm, sorry for that brain fart there.

The fan noise seems a bit OTT too, could you set up a partition and do a fresh install of the OS?. It shouldn't be ramping up the fan like that and everyone else seems to be happy with the card other than you and another person who has upgraded from the 4870 to the 6950.

I'm looking forward to seeing some progress and benches. Good luck amigo .

Well the MSI 5850 is on order and is coming tomorrow. It's been on order since before Christmas (DPD + weather) but since this BIOS swap thing has happened and people not so happy with the overclocking of the MSI 5850 I decided to go with the 6950. From the benchmarks it seems like the 5850 is a 50% upgrade to a 4870 roughly and the 6950 is about the same in some titles although a lot closer in others (25-50%).

So to buy a 5870 when the 5850 is on it's way tomorrow would be pointless I think. OCuK have told me to refuse the order so I've really got tonight to think before ordering tomorrow. If I feel the 6950 won't be worth it at 1600x1200 then I might just accept the 5850 tomorrow and buy a i5 760 quad instead of the i3 540. Choices, choices, choices. TBH it's doing my head in .

It does say TH-Timedemo/Street against that benchmark and not in game , dont know how you run that demo

Tom's hardware :- in the drop down box if you select 3dm06 the max is 25500 , I get 26500 so i guess its not under performing in that .

How do you feel about your card?. Also what did you upgrade from and do you feel the change since upgrading?.

 

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@ kitch9 Yeah thought it might be an early driver problem because BC2 seems ok. Not FRAPS it but it plays fine.
Yeah god knows what wrong with mine. Unless I installed it physically incorrectly Is that even possible?

My 4890 was x2 6pin connectors

The 6970 is 6 and an 8. I had an adjoined 2pin connector so I put 6pin in and another 6+2pin in also, it worked so it can't be that can it? Can they be the wrong way round?

@J.D Yeah I think they are higher than most. Kitch9 being a great example as his is in a small case. So, god knows tbh.

Yeah I see what you mean with the 5870. I read your questions on the i3 +6950 Vs i5 +5850 and most ppl said go i3 but I don't think I would go that route tbh. I know ur giving to ur mum afterwards but you won't have to for quite some time with an i5 and 5850 I shoudn't think.

But yeah if someone could let me know if I should check the physical install of the card or if it's impossible to get them the wrong way round that would help rule something out. Maybe I have a higher ambient temp than most.

Wu


EDIT: @andyr good point RE: the benchmark for l4d. What temps are you getting?

 

[MichaelM]

Hmmm I wonder what it could be? Airflow was good enough for my 4890 (idle 36c load 70c) is that ratio increase seem reasonable for the 6970 ie.

IDLE LOAD
4890 37c 70c

6970 51c 90c+

Either way I dont like 90c, I know modern cards can take like 120c I think but that's just too close.

Like I said on other thread - is there any way I cud have screwed up the physicall install with the power connectors? I went from x2 6pin connectors to 6pin and a 2pin+6pin - can they be the wrong way round or is there no wrong way round? I would laugh if I've just botched up the install.

Wu

Putting this here as its kind of derailling the reviews, discussion and overclocking thread

Thats exactly the pin setup im using, checking how much airflow you have and making sure all filters and fans are clean would be the first step I think.


Googled your case, is the PSU blowing or extracting air from/to the GPU?

 

[[WU-TANG]GZA]

Putting this here as its kind of derailling the reviews, discussion and overclocking thread

Thats exactly the pin setup im using, checking how much airflow you have and making sure all filters and fans are clean would be the first step I think.


Googled your case, is the PSU blowing or extracting air from/to the GPU?

hmm good point - Hard to tell cos it's not a VERY strong fan but I do think it's sucking into the case rather than out. Is that normal/factory standard?

The other thing that I've noticed is that going from having web browser up as opposed to minimised even makes a difference to the temps? OcUK told me over the phone that that is normal but I've never noticed it before and doesn't seem normal to me lol

EDIT: Maybe it's because im on dual screen and CCC doesn't report the card as anything less than 500Mhz on the core when idle/browsing etc.

 

[J.D]

@J.D Yeah I think they are higher than most. Kitch9 being a great example as his is in a small case. So, god knows tbh.

Yeah I see what you mean with the 5870. I read your questions on the i3 +6950 Vs i5 +5850 and most ppl said go i3 but I don't think I would go that route tbh. I know ur giving to ur mum afterwards but you won't have to for quite some time with an i5 and 5850 I shoudn't think.

But yeah if someone could let me know if I should check the physical install of the card or if it's impossible to get them the wrong way round that would help rule something out. Maybe I have a higher ambient temp than most.

Wu


EDIT: @Andyr good point RE: the benchmark for l4d. What temps are you getting?

I've not got a blues clue about the power set up mate sorry. I hope someone can clear that up for you though or if the silence is deafening then maybe just have a little push and prod here and there .

I'm glad you seen that post regarding i3 + 6950 Vs i5 + 5850. I agree that the 5850 and quad i5 is still a decent gaming rig but I should be upgrading to Sandy Bridge in April. My mother wouldn't make use out of the i5 as much I don't think either. Practically the £60 odds saved from going i3 instead of i5 would net me the 6950 over the 5850 so for three to four months gaming do you think it would be better with the i3?. I won't be editing, encoding or doing anything that would see the benefit of the extra two cores but once I get some time off I might start messing around with video editing.

I'm sorry to derail your thread here, I'm like a kid in a giant sweet shop with my choices and I don't know what lollipop to choose first .

So, power down your system and get on your knees mortal!. Just to have a play with the arrangement of your PSU into your graphics card.

If your story turns into one of those happy ones then it might be the decider for me so good luck.

 

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GJ02 - took the side panel off and it took about 5c off the idle temp to 48/49 from 54c. So it helped a bit...

 

[andyr]

Just played Black ops at 1920 x 1200 full settings and it peaked at 82 degrees,

previous card was a 5850 and it struggled to play at this resolution , i had to turn "bullet impact" off as it would lock up the graphics, this 6970 takes it in its stride , agree with the drivers are fiddly to install though , took me a number of goes to get it to recognise the card, hopefully 11.1 will be better.

Thinking of adding another one !

 

[MichaelM]

hmm good point - Hard to tell cos it's not a VERY strong fan but I do think it's sucking into the case rather than out. Is that normal/factory standard?

The other thing that I've noticed is that going from having web browser up as opposed to minimised even makes a difference to the temps? OcUK told me over the phone that that is normal but I've never noticed it before and doesn't seem normal to me lol

EDIT: Maybe it's because im on dual screen and CCC doesn't report the card as anything less than 500Mhz on the core when idle/browsing etc.

Yea dual screen would be the cause of high idle clocks and temps.

Doesn't explain the high load temps though, someone on the other thread suggested you take the side off the case and see if that effects anything. It's a sound suggestion to try and will most likely tell you if the GPU fan is not getting enough air (other parts near drawing air away from it).

 

[[WU-TANG]GZA]

I've not got a blues clue about the power set up mate sorry. I hope someone can clear that up for you though or if the silence is deafening then maybe just have a little push and prod here and there .

I'm glad you seen that post regarding i3 + 6950 Vs i5 + 5850. I agree that the 5850 and quad i5 is still a decent gaming rig but I should be upgrading to Sandy Bridge in April. My mother wouldn't make use out of the i5 as much I don't think either. Practically the £60 odds saved from going i3 instead of i5 would net me the 6950 over the 5850 so for three to four months gaming do you think it would be better with the i3?. I won't be editing, encoding or doing anything that would see the benefit of the extra two cores but once I get some time off I might start messing around with video editing.

I'm sorry to derail your thread here, I'm like a kid in a giant sweet shop with my choices and I don't know what lollipop to choose first .

So, power down your system and get on your knees mortal!. Just to have a play with the arrangement of your PSU into your graphics card.

If your story turns into one of those happy ones then it might be the decider for me so good luck.

That's a tough one mate - why don't you just wait until April and make your upgrade then and give your mum what you have now?

Then you will have even more money to spend on new rig? That's prolly what I would do rather than giving your mum an i3 or i5 - would she need that for email/browsing?


I will have a look at my PSU now and see. Thing is, why wouldn't my temps for the 4890 have been higher also if it was something with my rig? I think what GJ02 is getting at is putting a side fan in my case perhaps. Bit of a ballache this really just for a gfx upgrade.