Suspected burglar stabbed to death by homeowner

stulid said:
Problem there is they will keep doing it again and again if theres no deterrent, I remember some old geezer got burgled multiple times by the same scum bag because they found it easy to do.

Anyone who enters your house and is up to no good, is fair game in my books and I will slaughter them.
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I sort of see the point here, but insurance is for just this type of thing. Obviously I would take other measures like ensuring that my property was well secured (locks etc)

My point mainly stood for arguments sake of "don't put yourself and others at risk for the sake of a few valuables." - Insurance covers these. And they are (in most cases) replaceable.

Lives are not.
 
unless invited onto the property keep the hell off :mad:


Pigeon_Killer said:
Won't be long before we'll have to open our front doors for them rather than face prosecution for them cutting themselves climbing through a window they've broken :rolleyes:
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you say that, going back a few years now, my dad and the next door neigbours were told to take down barbed wire that had been put onto the top of the back yard fences, after a few attempts at breaking in to sheds.

got told it might hurt people climbing over the fence, dad was "well wtf are they doing trying to get into my garden over the top of the fence for ?", to be fair the coppers looked a bit sheepish and said "sry but it's the law".

no hope for this country :(.
 
Mucky_Pup said:
So you've got a meathead burglar who's managed to get his hands around your neck and is trying to throttle you to death, you've stabbed him once but he doesn't relent. What do you do? Say "Hey mate, I've stabbed you, you need to let me go now, them's the rules"? or do you let adrenalin take it's course and you keep stabbing until he stops?
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That's clearly a different situation. Reasonable force should be enough to allow you to escape; if they guy carries on, you clearly have no ability to escape, so stab him again until you're free. If he dies, he dies. However, if he stops and falls over, clearly unable to do anything more and you continue, when you and the people you may be trying to protect can now easily escape, it is no longer acceptable.
 
surely this is in the hands of the coroner now and any witnesses. i agree the home owner had the RIGHT to stab an intruder but not the right to stab him if he was fleeing. i dont hold much value in the number of stab injuries as the burgler could have simply kept on coming after a fair few.

i rally hope for the sake of this country that these people dont go down for this act , its becoming a bit of a joke how many criminals are being let off nowadays.
 
Fargo,

No I wouldn't have thought so, not if can cause injury or death. But surely a low voltage electric fence with big signs up could do that if you had a heart condition.

Take those anti theft/hijacking flame throwers under cars in South Affrica, they are illegal.
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
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Hypocrite MUCH!

You have just said that your material objects are worth more than the life of someone who has most likely not had the good decent upbringing you were fortunate to have. Give yourself a clap !!
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Don't read too well MUCH?!

Try actually reading the post and understanding the meaning. Seems you still don't get the fact that "all that I have" does not amount to monetary value.

I don't care if they haven't had an amazing upbringing -- I know more than enough people who have brought themselves up to succeed from horrific family lives. We all have a conscience to answer to. Poverty is no excuse for barbarity.
 
Gaygle said:
Oh give it a rest.

This has been discussed time and time again in GD. Although i won't be shedding a tear for the burglar, it is NOT unreasonable for the homeowner to be charged for murder - depending on the circumstances.

For him to be charged with murder, i suspect that the homeowner overstepped the mark of what is acceptable when protecting your home.

Ie. in the eyes of the law you are absolutely fine to subdue an offender in your home, with reasonable force, if you feel that your life is being threatened. However it is NOT acceptable to kill an offender that is no longer a threat - if they are fleeing for instance.
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Oh please? have you ever been in a situation like this at night, presumably in the dark? (i'm assuming here that the guy didn't keep stabbing him after he started running away!).

If there's a confrontation and you're defending yourself and others with a knife, who can possibly say with any degree of accuracy where "The line" is to overstep? depending on hundreds of factors, the intruder could have been dead after the first stab or could have still killed all three of the people after being stabbed forty times!

how can anyone possibly decide, determine or enforce that there's "the line" that must not be overstepped in a situation like this?

Again, i must reiterate that this only applies if the burglar was not attempting to flee/retreat/surrender.
 
Pestilence said:
I know more than enough people who have brought themselves up to succeed from horrific family lives. We all have a conscience to answer to. Poverty is no excuse for barbarity.
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Clearly you don't otherwise you wouldn't be making such cold un-compassionate posts. Being a youth/case worker I see what 'horrific family lives' REALLY is as you obviously don't have a clue tbh!

Plus poverty does not equate to systematic physical, psychological and emotional abuse. They are completely different
 
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Abraham said:
Someone has been stabbed to death, the police have arrested the possible culprits. At the point of taking that decision everything else is irrelevant. A short process will see probably 1 or 2 of them released and an investigation COULD see them all released. Stop reading so much into a simple situation.
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This total non story.
Of. Course it has to be treated as a murder, until the investigation is carried. The police don't know exactly what happened and until they do they have to treat it as any other crime and arrest/gather the evidence.


Do you people really think they should just go, no mate your fine carry on he was obviously a burglar carry on as normal, without finding out the facts and taking forensics.
 
There is so many things you can get help with over here, bad upbringing/bad family life is no excuse.
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
People aren't born wrong, their upbringing and environment make them what they are and only a cold hearted un-compassionate human would blame them for that!!
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Perhaps I am un-compassianate however I am also a father and my boys life is worth way more to me than some drug addled balaclava-clad thief. No matter what upbringing/environment they were bought up in.

I know people who have come from the very depths of hell (certain parts of Luton), who grew up with a never at home father and no mother, surrounded by drugs and many other negative influences and have come out the other side as people I would put my life in the hands of. People do have a choice and can change the way they act.

Pestilence said:
Poverty is no excuse for barbarity.
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Great saying.
 
cp88 said:
There is so many things you can get help with over here, bad upbringing/bad family life is no excuse.
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This.

I've had a pretty **** family life, yet I'm a quite well-rounded, likeable person (apparently). I would never do anything like this... Bad upbringing is not an excuse for acts of criminality.
 
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