John Cleese: London no longer English
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Not true. A random example from my own life: when I was a young boy, one of my father's friends was a guard on a train, which seemed like an awesome job to me at the time. He helped me start a train! Actually, he checked and gave the all clear to the driver, but he lifted me up so I could press the button to signal the driver and at that age I saw that as starting the train
He'd emigrated here in the 1950s. His skin was about as dark as skin gets, pretty much actually black (as opposed to the wide range of light to medium brown that gets called 'black' because people tend to like simple ideas of only two groups). He was English. London wasn't any less English for him living in it, because he was English.Short version: English isn't a skin colour.
Being a Hindu born in India and lived there for 17 years, I would say I know the culture pretty well. I have never personally come across any of what you just said. I have lived all over the country while going to school and am yet to meet anyone who cared/even knew what caste they or anyone else were.
As for the Hindu/non-Hindu thing, again, not come across it yet. Knew plenty of people from a variety of other religions and did not once care what they were and nor did anyone I knew.
Also, can you please explain to me how I have been forced into backward and obsolete ways of living by my family? I am the first to admit that I am heavily influenced by my parents and can also clearly say that they have taught to me to pursue whatever I enjoy (as long as it isn't drugs).
How you stereotype the entire culture is frankly beyond me.
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Why don't we have a poll : immigration, good or bad? Leave it to run for one week and then never ever discuss it again.
Anyone with me?
Anyone with me?
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Because I'm sick and tired of the topic being bleated about over and over and over and over again. It's the same old faces, the same old views and it's an utter waste of time. I should probably just not read the threads any more because I genuinely think it lowers the tone of the forums.
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[FnG]magnolia;19980093 said:
The same would happen in SC, except it would be a match between the neo-cons and near on neo-nazis instead with those in the centre trying to broker some kind of peace
.Probably the best summation I've heard to date by a country mile.
The UK is all the better for diversity and has always been a "mongrel nation", that's to our strength. It feels like there is an undertone of discontent at the moment with immigrant communities that choose not to integrate and just want to transplant their way of life and culture into an area(s) of the UK. A kind of "cake and eat it" thing. Perhaps it's just more noticeable now with media coverage.
On the flip side I'm yet to meet anyone who has a problem with immigrants who embrace and add to "British culture". It's particularly noticeable with friends who are the second or third generation born in the UK and although they have strong ties to their roots they regard themselves (rightly) as British, support (in this case) England in the football (and Cricket to annoy their grandparents) and generally contribute to the "British" way of life.
Not that "Brits" have any room for complaint. How many countries (Spain is a great European example) have areas of British immigrant ex pats that all live next door to each other, taking over a suburb, complete with cricket clubs, "Dell Boys Cafe", St George Pub and even after years barely speak a word of Spanish much less integrate with the local community.
Pot... this is Kettle...
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This country is screwed I have came to believe discussions on immigration are pointless too many people just have no idea what they are on about here.
We are screwed to long the left/liberal do-gooders have been the law makers and sd our nation down the road of globalisation and corporate profits social identity and cohesion are undermined family structure destroyed family, moral values warped into some greed money obsessive illness designed to feed consumerism. Listen the the music today it's all about being rich or have this or that, listen to older music it's about love or happiness etc
We are screwed to long the left/liberal do-gooders have been the law makers and sd our nation down the road of globalisation and corporate profits social identity and cohesion are undermined family structure destroyed family, moral values warped into some greed money obsessive illness designed to feed consumerism. Listen the the music today it's all about being rich or have this or that, listen to older music it's about love or happiness etc
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From my travelling around London and looking at London map as a whole (Greater London), english people as a majority are concentrated mainly in central london (City, Westminster) and outer parts of london (Borough of Richmond, Hillingdon, Kingston, Croydon, Enfield, Barking etc.)
As you travel London from outer parts towards central London (i.e. inbetween areas such as Ealing, Brent, Camden, Newham, Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Lewisham, etc), that's where you start to see different communities and it is mixture of english and rest of the communities. You can even see some scots, irish and welsh aswell. I once saw a scotsman fully dressed in Argyll Kilt walking among other communities in London
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Exactly what I was thinking. Also, how ironic he chooses to go to a country that has all but exterminated the native population...
Wtf, have you not seen all the posts about polish and other White Europeans over numerous threads.
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Good. Stay in LA ya daft muppet.The Daily Wail said:
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[FnG]magnolia;19982127 said:
It's not a simple question. It is both bad and good. Some place it has worked brilliantly, other places it "hasn't" although that depends on what you think it should achieve or be like, if any.
Personally, multiculturalism has been a good thing on average, we have always been multicultural. Either. By force or immigration. Due to that, we have an amazingly diverse culture and history.
Where it starts breaking down is where there are so many immigrants who can't speak the language, this is clearly emphasised by leaflets and translators everywhere in large cities. It very much to me does seem to be a line which is formed by the area you live in and just how secular(that's not the right word, I can't think of the correct word) it is. The places I have lived have had a good mix of nationalities and backgrounds, but we are all English. Where some places certainly seem less integrated and resistant to any change.
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I think it was probably more noticeable during the Roman occupation. I'm not being facetious - the majority of that conquest was cultural rather then military. Same with the Anglo-Saxon one. Not so much with the Norman conquest, which had much more emphasis on imposing obedience through force and fear.
Only if you are one of those people. Since I say they are wrong for the same reasons, I'm not being a hypocrite.
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Farp!!