Companies using RPI to put up prices

When we eventually move to ERTMS instead of conventional signalling (currently targeted to be in nationally by 2025) headways will improve drastically increasing line capacity. It'll also improve safety. Doesn't help now of course but long term investment is there at least

That's all I've got to add to a thread filled with good sense posting by some members :D
 
Glaucus said:
What's wrong with your new antennas and why, is there still no signal around them.

The new communication system is going to be epic and save so much time and issues.
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I don't get involved with the technical details thankfully! I just make pretty graphs to hide the project slippage :)
 
ExRayTed said:
When we eventually move to ERTMS instead of conventional signalling (currently targeted to be in nationally by 2025) headways will improve drastically increasing line capacity. It'll also improve safety. Doesn't help now of course but long term investment is there at least

That's all I've got to add to a thread filled with good sense posting by some members :D
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Its a great point though and these new systems will make such a difference to the railway - yet the average passenger has no idea there are thousands of people working on these improvements everyday.
 
Rail prices are quite shocking, over £60 for a standard class ticket on my journey and it takes over an hour longer than travelling by car. Buses are the same, faster to walk the 5 miles than get the bus with it's overpriced and circuitous routes.
 
Energize said:
Rail prices are quite shocking, over £60 for a standard class ticket on my journey and it takes over an hour longer than travelling by car. Buses are the same, faster to walk the 5 miles than get the bus with it's overpriced and circuitous routes.
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Which journey is that?
 
[TW]Fox;20842209 said:
Useful input there.
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Explains it all in two words really. The only thing companies are increasing prices is to make a profit and to feed their pockets. Very simple.

Most peoples lives are ever better than before it's just simply greed.

It's just business/political BS and you know it.
 
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mrbell1984 said:
Explains it all in two words really. The only thing companies are increasing prices is to make a profit and to feed their pockets. Very simple.
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So simple that you don't understand it?

Where are these vast profits? Did you know that in total, added together, the operating profit margin of the UK passenger rail industry in 2008/09 was just 3.9%? Thats it - 3.9%. And it's only as much as that because a small number of the companies make reasonable profits, many of them don't make any profit at all - they make an operating LOSS!
 
[TW]Fox;20842298 said:
So simple that you don't understand it?

Where are these vast profits? Did you know that in total, added together, the operating profit margin of the UK passenger rail industry in 2008/09 was just 3.9%? Thats it - 3.9%. And it's only as much as that because a small number of the companies make reasonable profits, many of them don't make any profit at all - they make an operating LOSS!
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Alright, care to explain this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13708317

Network Rail profits increase to £438m......

Yeh, no profit at all there fox. Businesses only operate if they are making a profit. If they make a loss why run? This is why a lot of small businesses are been taken over cos they simply making a loss.
 
Energize said:
LAN - AYW. What's even more shocking is that first class tickets are 4x the price for some wifi and food worth a few quid.
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A return walk-on fare is currently £64 - and its a journey of more than 4 hours each way. It is a round trip of some 340 miles the road goes right through the middle of rural Wales, it's hardly suprising it takes a long time by train, you have to go via Wolverhampton, for obvious reasons there isn't a direct straight railway line through the middle of nowhere...
 
Look at the transport for the world we have now, planes, trains, buses, ferry's, boats e.t.c the world is heaving with transport.

Can go from anywhere to anywhere in a record breaking time. It's not a bloody hard life is it. Like I said companies still creaming it in otherwise they just wouldn't exist.

It's all political BS.
 
mrbell1984 said:
Alright, care to explain this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13708317

Network Rail profits increase to £438m......
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Network Rail doesn't operate trains and you don't buy tickets from them so it's completely irrelevent.

It's also a terrible, terrible example which only serves to further highlight how little you know. Network Rail is not a conventional business. It is a non-dividend company and is technically public and government owned, it does not pay dividends to shareholders, profits are instead put back into the company to pay for upgrades, etc etc.

So lol@you, basically.

Yeh, no profit at all there fox. Businesses only operate if they are making a profit. If they make a loss why run?
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Many of them don't - numerous companies have given up and run off leaving a mess for the government to sort out. This is why East Coast are currently government owned, for example.
 
mrbell1984 said:
Like I said companies still creaming it in otherwise they just wouldn't exist.
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Debating this subject with you is painful. Why not go and read the Interim Report for Stagecoach Rail? They run East Midlands Trains and South West Trains amongst others. What did they 'cream in' in the first half of this financial year?

Nothing.

A loss of almost £7m. Zero profit.

I hope your opinion isn't reflective of the wider public but sadly I think it probably is. It's amazing how many people have strong and emotive opinions on subjects which are at best plain wrong and at worst toxic and misleading.
 
[TW]Fox;20842333 said:
A return walk-on fare is currently £64 - and its a journey of more than 4 hours each way. It is a round trip of some 340 miles the road goes right through the middle of rural Wales, it's hardly suprising it takes a long time by train, you have to go via Wolverhampton, for obvious reasons there isn't a direct straight railway line through the middle of nowhere...
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Well if the trains went at 300mph like Japan it would be a lot faster. But my point is it's faster to go by car, so given the price of the train what incentive is there to use it?
 
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