Homeless people in January

All the frenchman has to do is walk into a police station to start the ball rolling. They will give him a crime number (for his lost passport) which he must then take to the French Consulate in London. I guess he would have to hitch to london?
 
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If more people/the powers that be took a bit more notice of them and gave them some alternatives that empowered them to be able to make the choice to not be homeless, guess the hell what!???! More of them would CHOOSE not to be homeless.
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Go for it. If you are really that bothered about the plight of the smacked up homeless then go do something about it. Me, I could not care less. I am not being heartless I am just saying "each to their own". If they want to live like that then fair enough. I am never rude to them I just say "no" some people would say "no, sorry" but I have nothing to apologise for.

Maybe you have life savings, could be thousands, sitting in the bank, give it to the homeless as they obviously need it more than you do. You could take a homeless person in to your house as you don't think they have drug problems so they won't steal from you. You could make a real difference Shadesofgrey, just don't ask me to contribute.

Good night.

Edit: just so people on this forum can learn something about what type of person you are shadesofgrey, is that socialoutcast website you linked to something you read all the time, are you a follower of Ross? And do you really think that if Hitler had written the 10 points about why people are homeless that you would think it must be right as Hitler wrote it and he knows everything about the homeless in Britain during 2012.
 
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I don't give money directly as I don't know where it's going. Instead I try to give to charities that will help the homeless out instead.
 
Never give a homeless person money, only good food and drink(not alcohol)

Those big issue lot wind me up though, one day I came out from Morrisons I was abit upset because My aunt was very ill as she is now this Big issue **** turns to me and says " SourPuss ", I felt like punching his lights out :(
 
When the weather is bad I always think to myself that I should be thankful for the roof over my head and how horrible it must be destitute on the streets.
 
the plight of the smacked up homeless
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Continuing to tar the homeless with the same brush will not make what you think to be true of all of them. It is SO easy to tell who has a smack addiction and who has not, anyway, trust me not all homeless people are smackheads.


I am not being heartless I am just saying "each to their own".
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You are being heartless, the "each to your own" that you are choosing is the "heartless" choice. Sure, you can do what you like with your own money, but please, dont go around telling people to tell the homeless "where to go" based on your own presumptions of what they all are.

FWIW if I was totally loaded I would indeed use that cash to help humanity out, I would feel a right jerk sitting on my pot of gold and not helping people with some of it.

Good night to you to, sleep sound in your nice warm bed.
 
this thread is making me genuinly sad :( i just wish i could push a button and help all of those who need it
 
it's a choice pure and simple, and if you can't see that then you need to take a step back and have a look at what is available to these people.

if there wasn't a way to get back on your feet in the city that you are in, well, get walking, it's not like you have anything better to do.

they choose it as a lifestyle as they have no motivation to better themselves. maybe some meds and a talk to a shrink or some motivation experts might help.

and those excuses are crap. it's like when smokers make excuses for smoking.
 
Oh christ on a bike I just noticed your edit kingy666...
Edit: just so people on this forum can learn something about what type of person you are shadesofgrey, is that socialoutcast website you linked to something you read all the time, are you a follower of Ross? And do you really think that if Hitler had written the 10 points about why people are homeless that you would think it must be right as Hitler wrote it and he knows everything about the homeless in Britain during 2012.
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Are you for real?

No dude, I'm not a 'Follower of Ross' Nor am I Christian... I'm none practising Spiritual Agnostic. I would also class myself as a humanitarian but I would have thought that would be obvious.

You seem to have missed the point, about Hitler, child raping murders and the 'Copy+Paster' not the 'author' of those 10 reasons why some homeless people choose to be homeless. Who may I quickly point out that you think must be a total nut case because he is american and religious, heaven forbid that a religious american could actually be a nice none nutcase humble guy.

The point was, ready for this? keep up dear, the point is that if what someone is saying is fact, then it is fact regardless of how terrible a person they are.

If Hitler says "1+1 is 2" you cannot disproove this by the mear fact that he is not a nice guy.

If Myra Hindley was to say "There are 100cm in 1m" one cannot turn around and say stfu bitch you're wrong because you did terrible things to children.

This is what I meant in reply to your attemp at discrediting his copy paste article because he is "some mad American religious nut job called Ross"


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Anyhoo, in case you also missed my point about people only choosing to be homeless because the help on offer is no use to them I will leave you with the final words of 'The top ten' as I'm pretty sure you have not even read any of it.

Do homeless people ever really choose to be homeless? No, not really. Still not convinced? Well next time you see a homeless person sleeping on the streets try dangling the keys to your nice plush suburban home under his or her nose. Inform them that the central heating is fired up, the fridge is fully stocked and there is fresh linen. Tell them Fido is welcome, they can have their friends over and they can come and go as they please. I can guarantee there will be a dozen proverbial shopping carts parked in your driveway come lunchtime.
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I vaguely remember going on holiday to Australia when I was 7, and going to Sydney we used the underground. The amount of homeless people I saw affected me quite a bit, having lived in a town all of my life. I was so tempted to give what little money I had at the time to them but never did, and still to this day have never given to someone on the street. I don't know why but something always tells me not to.

Also the most horrible thing I saw was, a shop closed down on the high street and it had a smallish porch sort of area, indented from the pathway, and as no one had bought up the shop, a homeless person took up shelter there. As I was at sixth form, which was in town, I walked past nearly everyday, and he had a makeshift bed set up there. Then one Friday, as I walked passed, he was there, holding a sign saying "Someone had urinated on my bedding, please give so I can buy some more".

Now I don't doubt him. Thursday (the night before) is student night, and young people drunk do the stupidest things. That is the most I've ever wanted to give to a homeless person but I still never did. Idk, maybe I'll volunteer at a shelter or something, just hate seeing people like that but at the same time don't want to give them my money.
 
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Tute said:
I don't give money directly as I don't know where it's going. Instead I try to give to charities that will help the homeless out instead.
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Woohoo, was waiting for someone to mention this so I could link this:


Would I give money to charities for homeless people? Unlikely.
Would I give money to a homeless person? Again unlikely (for reasons previously mentioned pertaining to alcohol/drugs).
Would I buy some food/drink/clothing and give it directly to a homeless person? Much, much, more likely.
 
To be homeless is a choice and I have no desire to help them at all. It also infuriates me when I see people with dogs, or smoking or drinking.

One of my best friends sons in homeless. Why? Because he is an idiot who thinks that violence towards his family (and others) is acceptable and would rather beg on the streets of Manchester to buy his next pack of fags or can of cider than try and change his life for the better. He's had all the help in the world, they literally hand money over to people like him. He even had a nice Council flat at one point, but threw that away too. Don't tell me that's not a choice and if you think it's not then you're delusional.

I'm not one to paint everyone with the same brush, but I've met a LOT of homeless people via him, at shelters, hostels, etc. They are almost all the same. Scum. Of course the odd one is ok and are just stuck in a rut etc, but generally can't be arsed to do anything about it or "don't want the help".

(yes I feel strongly about this subject! lol)

95% of people begging on the streets are not homeless at all anyway... but that's another story!
 
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A lot of people don't understand or care why people are homeless, yes, sometimes its a choice, but why are they choosing to live in such a way that's the real question, nobody wants to live on the streets begging, but a lot of these people suffer from depression, low self-esteem, learning difficulties, misunderstood behavioural problems etc, they've given up, they don't feel like they have any value or place in society any more, you end up feeling numb, not caring any more, suddenly 'surviving' is just a way of life, you reach out for anything that will make you feel something again, drink, drugs, anything that will help you escape your mundane existence, next thing you know your addicted, lost, alone and homeless, it's not easy to crawl out of that hole, especially when people just think your scum.
 
It makes me sad to think these people must have families that don't care about them?

The French guy for example, he must have some one back home that could help him out if he wanted it?
 
I just read this out of curiosity and im kinda shocked by the ignorance of some people,no offence. Yes,some people are idiots and end up homeless because of their own stupid choices and not taking responsability,but from personal experience,i know how easy it is to become homeless even if you've done everything you possably can. All these little technicalities that come in to play when people try to go get help and end up being told they have no right to be helped sometimes based on the lies of a greedy foreign landlord who takes advantage of a situation you told them about in confidence so they can keep their 1 grand deposit so they dont have to pay to fix their ****hole of a house.:p

Anyway,i can think of 5 other people off the top of my head that were homeless because of circumstances beyond their controll so please dont tar everybody with the same brush.

On another note,i notice that in a well off area here in Glasgow that all the native Scottish homeless people seem to have vanished and now its eastern european gypsies selling it on the streets.(im part gypsy myself btw so dont call me a nazi lol) Im just wondering,how the hell can these people come here and get benefits and sell the big issue and put kids into schools here when they arrived with supposedly no money and no jobs to support themselves? Who let them in here? Dont you have to meet some sort of standard to be allowed entry into the UK? I think we should all be taking care of our own problems before taking on other peoples from abroad. It's hard enough to make ends meet as it is and the country is supposedly in debt....which by the way is another reason to vote for independence in the upoming referendum:D

Inb4 some british nationalist says we are spongers when we've had no say in the UK's finances and not had the benefit of our natural resources which make up 90% of the UK's assets that have been squandered away by numpties in downing street who couldnt run a ****-up in a brewery for a few hundred years. It's good to see cameron squirming and trying to now interfere with the voting dates etc becuse he thinks if the votes held sooner theres more chance we will vote against it!(fat chance) FREEDOM!!!!!!:D
 
There are loads of tramps in and around Old Street underground station in London, does anyone know why they all hang out there?
 
There should be less spent on wars and weapons production by all nations and more spent on human development and healthcare,all countries should be chipping into a big pot to fix this whole world up. Religion as a beleif should be considered a mental illness and appropriate medication/counselling given to the victims of religious brainwashing by their own families and the church/mosques/synagogues/and watever there is like that. People dont read the books about greek gods and pagan idols and take it seriously unless they are on drugs or not right in the head.(excluding the technologicly handicapped people in the past lol) Im not saying they should burn all bibles and korans,they have very very very good lessons in those books that can be applied to life even thousands of years later,i just dont think people should be taking this as the word of a supreme being and using that as an excuse to differentiate ourself from eachother. Everybody bleeds red and crys the same tears and laugh when happy. Im sad to be living in a time where i can go out and buy an i5 PC and theres some dude in africa starving to death before he even had a chance and junkies here in the streets who may be idiots or selfish irresponsable people or just the victims of a society they were born into with no say in the matter before they came here and dealt a bad hand and walked down a dark manky path. i dont even know why im ranting on ,i guess this subject struck a nerve with me,i just think the world can do better than this and pull together for once instead of having an im alright jack mentality.
 
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Justin said:
There are loads of tramps in and around Old Street underground station in London, does anyone know why they all hang out there?
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I suppose it could be close to a soup kitchen or a hostel. There are some subways around there so maybe it's because they keep their cardboard boxes close by.
 
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