Guns n Roses hall of fame daily mail fail

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So the rock and roll hall of fame is inducting GnR (original line-up) but Axl has declined to attend and threatened to sue if they induct him in his absence as he thinks inducting the band with an old lineup detracts from the bands current tour.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...r-feud-Guns-N-Roses-bandmates.html#addComment

This in itself is pretty news/discussion worthy except the daily mail have managed to outdo themselves with an old band photo and the following capiton:

Feud: Guns N' Roses featuring Tommy Stinson, Dizzy Reed, Axl, Duff McKagan and Slash in their 90s heyday

The picture features original members Izzy Stradlin, and Stephen Adler not Tommy Stinson (who joined the band a couple of years ago) and Dizzy Reed (who is a keyboardist not a drummer and joined in the early 90's, he's still in the band making him the longest serving member apart form Axl). And to add insult to insult the picture is from the late 80's not the 90's :p
 
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Typical bad journalism. Axl Rose is a Class-A D-Bag :p He doesn't deserve to be inducted in the first place :p

I know you're not being serious but that's still a ridiculous thing to say. The frontman being a prize bitch does not deduct anything from the musical relevance and accomplishment of a band.
 
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I know you're not being serious but that's still a ridiculous thing to say. The frontman being a prize bitch does not deduct anything from the musical relevance and accomplishment of a band.

I actually don't think Guns & Roses are very good at all. Just a few good singles hits. But this is just my opinion. Obviously they have a big fan following though and so I can see why they are to be inducted. But Roses general douchebaggery makes it a little bitter-sweet. If he doesn't want to accept it, then good I say :p Let the other real musicians get the award.
 
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Besides Guns N' Roses, the inductees will include the Beastie Boys, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the late singer/songwriter Laura Nyro, Donovan, and The Small Faces/The Faces, which included Rod Stewart and Rolling Stones guitarist Ronnie Wood.

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Since when were the Beastie Boys classified as rock ?
 
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Axl's statement:

Axl Rose said:
To: The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Guns N' Roses Fans and Whom It May Concern,

When the nominations for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame were first announced I had mixed emotions but, in an effort to be positive, wanting to make the most of things for the fans and with their enthusiasm, I was honored, excited and hoped that somehow this would be a good thing. Of course I realized as things stood, if Guns N' Roses were to be inducted it'd be somewhat of a complicated or awkward situation.

Since then we've listened to fans, talked with members of the board of the Hall Of Fame, communicated with and read various public comments and jabs from former members of Guns N' Roses, had discussions with the president of the Hall Of Fame, read various press (some legit, some contrived) and read other artists' comments weighing in publicly on Guns and the Hall with their thoughts.

Under the circumstances I feel we've been polite, courteous, and open to an amicable solution in our efforts to work something out. Taking into consideration the history of Guns N' Roses, those who plan to attend along with those the Hall for reasons of their own, have chosen to include in "our" induction (that for the record are decisions I don't agree with, support or feel the Hall has any right to make), and how (albeit no easy task) those involved with the Hall have handled things... no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted or respected.

For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It's their show not mine.

That said, I won't be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N' Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

I strongly request that I not be inducted in absentia and please know that no one is authorized nor may anyone be permitted to accept any induction for me or speak on my behalf. Neither former members, label representatives nor the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should imply whether directly, indirectly or by omission that I am included in any purported induction of "Guns N' Roses".

This decision is personal. This letter is to help clarify things from my and my camp's perspective. Neither is meant to offend, attack or condemn. Though unfortunately I'm sure there will be those who take offense (God knows how long I'll have to contend with the fallout), I certainly don't intend to disappoint anyone, especially the fans, with this decision. Since the announcement of the nomination we've actively sought out a solution to what, with all things considered, appears to be a no win, at least for me, "damned if I do, damned if I don't" scenario all the way around.

In regard to a reunion of any kind of either the Appetite or Illusion lineups, I've publicly made myself more than clear. Nothing's changed.

The only reason, at this point, under the circumstances, in my opinion whether under the guise of "for the fans" or whatever justification of the moment, for anyone to continue to ask, suggest or demand a reunion are misguided attempts to distract from our efforts with our current lineup of myself, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Frank Ferrer, Richard Fortus, Chris Pitman, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and DJ Ashba.

Izzy came out with us a few times back in '06 and I invited him to join us at our LA Forum show last year. Steven was at our show at the Hard Rock, later in '06 in Las Vegas, where I invited him to our after-party and was rewarded with his subsequent interviews filled with reunion lies. Lesson learned. Duff joined us in 2010 and again in '11 along with his band, Loaded, opening in Seattle and Vancouver. For me, with the exception of Izzy or Duff joining us on stage if they were so inclined somewhere in the future for a song or two, that's enough.

There's a seemingly endless amount of revisionism and fantasies out there for the sake of self-promotion and business opportunities masking the actual realities. Until every single one of those generating from or originating with the earlier lineups has been brought out in the light, there isn't room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion.

Maybe if it were you it'd be different. Maybe you'd do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. I love our band now. We're there for each other when the going get's rough. We love our fans and work to give them every ounce of energy and heart we can.

So let sleeping dogs lie or lying dogs sleep or whatever. Time to move on. People get divorced. Life doesn't owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another's, or in this case several others', expense.

But hey if ya gotta then maybe we can get the "no show, grandstanding, publicity stunt, disrespectful, he doesn't care about the fans" **** out of the way as quickly as we can and let's move on. No one's taking the ball and going home. Don't get it twisted. For more than a decade and a half we've endured the double standards, the greed of this industry and the ever present seemingly limitless supply of wannabes and unscrupulous, irresponsible media types. Not to imply anything in this particular circumstance, but from my perspective in regard to both the Hall and a reunion, the ball's never been in our court.

In closing, regardless of this decision and as hard to believe or as ironic as it may seem, I'd like to sincerely thank the board for their nomination and their votes for Guns' induction. More importantly I'd like to thank the fans for being there over the years, making any success we've had possible and for enjoying and supporting Guns N' Roses music.

I wish the Hall a great show, congratulations to all the other artists being inducted and to our fans we look forward to seeing you on tour!!

Sincerely,

Axl Rose

P.S. RIP Armand, Long Live ABC III
 
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I actually don't think Guns & Roses are very good at all. Just a few good singles hits. But this is just my opinion. Obviously they have a big fan following though and so I can see why they are to be inducted. But Roses general douchebaggery makes it a little bitter-sweet. If he doesn't want to accept it, then good I say :p Let the other real musicians get the award.

Apart from appetite for destruction which sold 28 million copies making it the best selling debut album for quite some time and possibley even still today, they had 5 other studio release albums equating to over 100 million record sales. They still have a huge following and continue to sell out venues under a new lineup.

'A few good singles' is arguable.
 
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Apart from appetite for destruction which sold 28 million copies making it the best selling debut album for quite some time and possibley even still today, they had 5 other studio release albums equating to over 100 million record sales. They still have a huge following and continue to sell out venues under a new lineup.

'A few good singles' is arguable.

Marky said:
I actually don't think Guns & Roses are very good at all. Just a few good singles hits. But this is just my opinion. Obviously they have a big fan following though and so I can see why they are to be inducted. But Roses general douchebaggery makes it a little bitter-sweet. If he doesn't want to accept it, then good I say :p Let the other real musicians get the award.

See highlighted bit in my quote.
 
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