War with Iran

Stretch said:
Your kidding right. Israel doesn't have the resources to fight a land war with Iran. And that's before you consider the problem of the two countries not sharing a boarder so they'd either have to build a sizable navy of go through Iraq first.

Any attack would be strategic air strikes aimed at destroying or disabling nuclear facilities. It's questionable whether Israel has the ability to do this without US support. Some facilities are a fair distance from Israel and the Israeli air force is primarily an air defense force. It doesn't posses any long range strategic bombers that we know of.
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Israel has long range ballistic missiles that work.

Also there are HUGE american war supplies stockpiles in Israel of unknown contents.
 
[TW]Fox;21692980 said:
Russia is not siding with Iran at all, I'm not sure where this beleif comes from. Russia are against military intervention and some of the sanctions in place - this doesn't mean they side with Iran (They have condemned many aspects of the nuclear programme) - it just means they disagree regarding the best way to settle the issues.
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Yes but thats faarrr too complex for some people to understand - same people who said the Russians were siding with Gadafi (sp?) when they had objection to the UN plans.

Stretch said:
Some facilities are a fair distance from Israel and the Israeli air force is primarily an air defense force. It doesn't posses any long range strategic bombers that we know of.
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In the modern era dedicated bombers can be replaced with re-armed "fighter" aircraft which they do have. Its a case of Iran's air defence being up to task and that seems likely, they're not thick enough to know that the two nations most likely to fight them are heavily dependant on air power and not do something about it.

Tefal said:
after all did we go to war with Russia when they invaded Georgia?
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You mean when Russia defended the Ossetians ? I'm not having someone painting the RF as "evil" for sticking up them.
 
e36Adz said:
People need to start thinking of this as a reality, no matter how far fetched it sounds.

If Israel does attack Iran, as I believe it will do which is why I've been saying it for years, it will need to do so on a scale that we haven't seen before and in the process take control of as much of Irans oil as possible. Israel will do so with full US backing, because essentially they are both one and the same ie. the same people who control both countries.

As already pointed out, if they strike Iran, the price of oil will skyrocket and in turn the dollar will collapse, another event which is also not far off now. I believe that a new reserve currency will be introduced which will be based in Jerusalem. Power will return to Israel after over 2000 years, yet the intellectuals of ocuk with their phds will have completely missed the boat, they can't see it coming, they cannot grasp reality in this great age of deception.

As our prophet PBUH said, the unbelievers will never be able to recognise the liar who sees with just one eye. Since he has essentially also blinded most of mankind, he goes undetected. Appearance and reality have switched places as our prophet PBUH warned us. All the hadith are coming true, and will come true. When power finally returns to Israel we will see a man emerge claiming that he is the Messiah and the Jews will accept him. Israel was created for a purpose and it has been armed and protected for a purpose, and it has continued to grow stronger and stronger for a purpose.
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People like you are why humanity fails.
 
nineteenforty4 said:
You mean when Russia defended the Ossetians ? I'm not having someone painting the RF as "evil" for sticking up them.
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whoever said i was painting them as evil?

we've invaded two countries in the last decade with **** poor reasons, and russia didn't declare war on us either.

my point is russia, America and china can pretty much do what they like to the rest of the world as long as they leave each other alone.
 
e36Adz said:
People need to start thinking of this as a reality, no matter how far fetched it sounds.

If Israel does attack Iran, as I believe it will do which is why I've been saying it for years, it will need to do so on a scale that we haven't seen before and in the process take control of as much of Irans oil as possible. Israel will do so with full US backing, because essentially they are both one and the same ie. the same people who control both countries.

As already pointed out, if they strike Iran, the price of oil will skyrocket and in turn the dollar will collapse, another event which is also not far off now. I believe that a new reserve currency will be introduced which will be based in Jerusalem. Power will return to Israel after over 2000 years, yet the intellectuals of ocuk with their phds will have completely missed the boat, they can't see it coming, they cannot grasp reality in this great age of deception.

As our prophet PBUH said, the unbelievers will never be able to recognise the liar who sees with just one eye. Since he has essentially also blinded most of mankind, he goes undetected. Appearance and reality have switched places as our prophet PBUH warned us. All the hadith are coming true, and will come true. When power finally returns to Israel we will see a man emerge claiming that he is the Messiah and the Jews will accept him. Israel was created for a purpose and it has been armed and protected for a purpose, and it has continued to grow stronger and stronger for a purpose.
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You sound like you want a war.


Also you got a time-scale for this like 10, 20, 50 years or is it just forever and ever?
 
Anyone using Russia Today as a source should be shot, buried then nuked.

Its a lovely mix of fox news, the daily mail and the russian propaganda ministry.
 
int said:
No it isn't. This is nonsense. Stop believe everything on YouTube.

The first video says "take down 7 countries in 5 years". The Iraq war started 2003, so they're 4 years late.
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Timelines change, obviously it was quite an optimistic plan but you can't deny that half of those countries listed have been 'liberated' and the other half are very much in the crosshairs in terms of media coverage/planned intervention by either the USA or the UN (Syria = cracking down on rebels, Iran = WMD, Somalia = Famine, Pirates).
 
dalin80 said:
Anyone using Russia Today as a source should be shot, buried then nuked.

Its a lovely mix of fox news, the daily mail and the russian propaganda ministry.
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Agreed. Any journalist who is critical of, or digs too deep into the Russian leadership or police and military ends up dead. Over 150 Russian journalists have been murdered since the early 90s.
 
FAO: People of the internets.

Everything you read on the internet is not necessarily true.

Just because someone makes a YouTube video compiling news clips with dodgy music and a deep American accented voice over guy, doesn't mean it has any credibility. It only means they have too much free time on their hands.
(Haven't watched OP's videos as I'm at work in 10 mins, also I'd rather watch a full series of The Voice with commentary from Keith Chegwin than watch those videos)

Enjoy life instead of scouring the internet for this type I of ****. If you must browse the internet for most of the day, I recommend lolcats, dose cats get upto so much mischief and mayhem.
 
e36Adz said:
People need to start thinking of this as a reality, no matter how far fetched it sounds.

If Israel does attack Iran, as I believe it will do which is why I've been saying it for years, it will need to do so on a scale that we haven't seen before and in the process take control of as much of Irans oil as possible. Israel will do so with full US backing, because essentially they are both one and the same ie. the same people who control both countries.

As already pointed out, if they strike Iran, the price of oil will skyrocket and in turn the dollar will collapse, another event which is also not far off now. I believe that a new reserve currency will be introduced which will be based in Jerusalem. Power will return to Israel after over 2000 years, yet the intellectuals of ocuk with their phds will have completely missed the boat, they can't see it coming, they cannot grasp reality in this great age of deception.

As our prophet PBUH said, the unbelievers will never be able to recognise the liar who sees with just one eye. Since he has essentially also blinded most of mankind, he goes undetected. Appearance and reality have switched places as our prophet PBUH warned us. All the hadith are coming true, and will come true. When power finally returns to Israel we will see a man emerge claiming that he is the Messiah and the Jews will accept him. Israel was created for a purpose and it has been armed and protected for a purpose, and it has continued to grow stronger and stronger for a purpose.
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I'd ask for some of what your on but i've already heard enough bad things about crystal meth.
 
Johno please? said:
People like you are why humanity fails.
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Mercutio said:
I'd ask for some of what your on but i've already heard enough bad things about crystal meth.
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I know the easy thing to do is just join the crowd and resent and mock anything to do with religion and feel secure knowing the majority share your view but the same majority have failed to grasp the basics. You need to address why? When I suggested Israel would launch a war in the Middle East years ago after we begin to see uprisings in the Middle East with leaders being overthrown, I was ridiculed because there was 'no proof'. Now we seem to be hearing about it on an almost daily basis and it can no longer be called a conspiracy theory as it's becoming more and more obvious they are just looking for any excuse. When it actually happens I suspect you will sweep it all under the carpet and continue blindly wandering to and fro.

Tefal said:
You sound like you want a war.

Also you got a time-scale for this like 10, 20, 50 years or is it just forever and ever?
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What on Earth gives you that impression? Believing something will happen and wanting it to happen are completely different. I think almost all right minded people (even those in Iran) just to want to live their lives in peace. The fact that a group of tyrants who are hell bent on absolute power and obsessed with controlling everything, means that peace in the World is some way off yet in my opinion. I explained who I believe these people are in my thread entitled 'Gog and Magog'.

As for a time-scale, how long do wars last? Are they always the same? I believe Israel will launch it's first attack this year but that is just my personal opinion based on how fast I see things currently moving. I definitely see America facing massive problems and going through a crisis under Obama. If you want to pull this up in 2013 if and when I am wrong, feel free to do so, I will admit I was wrong but it doesn't change the big picture in the slightest, even though many many things can happen in that time which can change the big picture as I see it.

The only way to grasp reality in the age of deception where mountains of lies are being told, is to study the Quran and the Hadith. No amount of degrees or phds will be off any use if you are internally blinded, because contrary to what modern day science teaches us, there is a reality beyond what the physical eyes can see and what can be measured and observed. Once the events which I believe will happen have occurred, I will point you to a book which was written around 2002 by a muslim scholar who stated all this back then, and maybe then you can tell me how he, step by step, was so spot on.

Edit: Although Russia and China may talk a lot, I do not believe they will actually get involved in any war initiated by Israel.
 
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e36Adz said:
I know the easy thing to do is just join the crowd and resent and mock anything to do with religion and feel secure knowing the majority share your view but the same majority have failed to grasp the basics.
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This isn't really the case though is it? Especially as some people who do not at all mock religion and some who even share your religion have also suggested that your views are somewhat bonkers. The only thing you have to support your views is some rather dodgy interpretation of 1400 year old documents. You then retrofit anything that is even remotely related into your prophecy as "proof".

e36Adz said:
As for a time-scale, how long do wars last? Are they always the same? I believe Israel will launch it's first attack this year but that is just my personal opinion based on how fast I see things currently moving. I definitely see America facing massive problems and going through a crisis under Obama. If you want to pull this up in 2013 if and when I am wrong, feel free to do so, I will admit I was wrong but it doesn't change the big picture in the slightest, even though many many things can happen in that time which can change the big picture as I see it.
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Which is all terribely convenient isn't it? Your prophecy will always be just around the corner. How long will need to pass before you even start thinking "Hmm, maybe I was wrong?" 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? Or will you go to your deathbed thinking "Yep, just around the corner, any day now it will all start"?
 
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