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BaZ87 said:
Your initial post claimed you usually go for youngsters or unknowns. That's not quite the same thing as what you're now saying regarding buying top players from abroad.

The reality lies somewhere in between the 2 claims. Going back to the start of the Premier League, through to the last 7 years or so, you signed the likes of Ince, Cantona, Cole, Yorke, Sheringham etc - ready made top performers, proven in the League. On top of those buys you brought in the likes of Veron, Stam & Van Nistelrooy from abroad. None of those players were unknowns or youngsters.

It's only in the last 5-6 years that you're main transfers have been younger, less established players.
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Context Baz, we were talking about Lucas Moura and then Nick went on to talking about all these big named foreign players we failed to sign. We weren't discussing domestic players.
 
I dont consider Stam or Ruud being big transfers when they signed for the club, both came from PSV who are surely comparable to Dortmund and by all account's our latest addition signed from them is nothing more than an also-ran :/
 
Shamikebab said:
Context Baz, we were talking about Lucas Moura and then Nick went on to talking about all these big named foreign players we failed to sign. We weren't discussing domestic players.
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Quickly skimming over his posts, he mentions the failed attempt to sign Nasri, the signing of Berbatov and interest in RvP. It certainly doesn't appear like he's only discussing signings from abroad.
 
BaZ87 said:
Quickly skimming over his posts, he mentions the failed attempt to sign Nasri, the signing of Berbatov and interest in RvP. It certainly doesn't appear like he's only discussing signings from abroad.
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Well he was initially, it's not my fault he changes his point as he goes :p
 
Tom84 said:
I dont consider Stam or Ruud being big transfers when they signed for the club, both came from PSV who are surely comparable to Dortmund and by all account's our latest addition signed from them is nothing more than an also-ran :/
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Stam and Van Nistelyrooy weren't big transfers? :eek:

£10m(?) for Stam and near £20m for Van Nistelrooy was massive money back then. How can they be considered anything other than big transfers?

edit: wiki says that the £10.6m for Stam was a world record fee for a defender at the time.
 
In a team where giggs Beckham scholes with keane could battle well internationally we didnt have to buy the worlds best midfielders we already had lots of players 9/10 cross the board. Wed supplement with a few purchases domestic or foreign. But never managed to replace or equal with foreign or domestic purchases. This sustained us for so long we didn't have to buy big.

Now they are ceasing to be or have left we still have this aura of being one of the biggest clubs in the world but looking at our players in transfer policy i think we are not capable of maintaining this position.

Obviously when we miss out on players like hazard and opt for kagawa to bolster commercials in Asia this is exacerbated. Then once the player arrives and puts most of our team to shame you can see how woeful the bulk of our line up is in comparison to the real top clubs in the world.

Having to play counter attacking football against top clubs because you are unable to control the game or the ball is just a function of this slide.
 
BaZ87 said:
Stam and Van Nistelyrooy weren't big transfers? :eek:

£10m(?) for Stam and near £20m for Van Nistelrooy was massive money back then. How can they be considered anything other than big transfers?

edit: wiki says that the £10.6m for Stam was a world record fee for a defender at the time.
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Dont feed the troll.

Stam was a big buy, 1998 was it? 10 mill for a defender, apart from RIO im pretty much convinced he's our next most expensive defensive buy and thats in 14 years lol.

SHAMI
Well he was initially, it's not my fault he changes his point as he goes
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Be fair, you said foreign players choosing against manchester. i showed you a big name french international who rejected UTD but still chose Madchester, just to prove your point is incorrect.

Also Robinho went to manchester (another big name brazilian). Torres went to Liverpool of all places, i mean..merseyside?! Sweet jesus there arent many places id rather not live that liverpool.
 
BaZ87 said:
Stam and Van Nistelyrooy weren't big transfers? :eek:

£10m(?) for Stam and near £20m for Van Nistelrooy was massive money back then. How can they be considered anything other than big transfers?

edit: wiki says that the £10.6m for Stam was a world record fee for a defender at the time.
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I was referring more to the players themselves rather than the fee's involved (after all as 35m Carroll proves money spent doesn't always reflect on the quality of player you get in return :p)

I dont think Stam or Van Nistelrooy in terms of names were any bigger than Kagawa this summer.

EDIT: Seems another thing Nick isn't able to grasp is the definition of what trolling is either :o
 
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Shamikebab said:
Well off the top of my head:

Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ozil, Benzema, Alexis Sanchez, David Villa, Wesley Sneijder, Arjen Robben
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I dont remember you going after half of those. Maybe rumoured to be after but not many you bidded for and sat down and talked with and they chose another club.

But as above your original arguement was you only bought youngsters and unknowns. Which isnt quite true is it :p
 
The Running Man said:
Also Robinho went to manchester (another big name brazilian). Torres went to Liverpool of all places, i mean..merseyside?! Sweet jesus there arent many places id rather not live that liverpool.
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A lot of Liverpool is nice, city centre certainly nicer than Manchester, granted Anfield is surrounded by a **** hole
 
bloodline76 said:
But as above your original arguement was you only bought youngsters and unknowns. Which isnt quite true is it :p
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I think you and Baz have taken what Shami said a little too literally, I think what he means is instead of signing Ronaldo we signed Van Nistelrooy, instead of signing Ronaldinho we signed Cristiano Ronaldo. Whether it's a case of we tried and failed to sign the big names or just ignored them entirely and opted for 'relative' unknowns instead we rarely for one reason or another sign the biggest of names (like say Real and Barca do)
 
Purdy said:
A lot of Liverpool is nice, city centre certainly nicer than Manchester, granted Anfield is surrounded by a **** hole
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tbf Nickg doesn't even know where on the map Manchester is let alone actually having been there so I wouldn't take any notice of his opinion on Liverpool either ;)
 
This is just getting ridiculous. People on here just put words in your mouth.

Nick if you can quote where I've said Foreign players have chosen against Manchester I'd love for you to do so please. You always do this on here, you make a stupid statement which everyone immediately proves wrong and then you change the point you were making and try and act like that was your point all along.

bloodline76 said:
But as above your original arguement was you only bought youngsters and unknowns. Which isnt quite true is it :p
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Enlighten me, can you actually read? Go back and read my post and see where you've made a silly.
 
Shamikebab said:
This is just getting ridiculous. People on here just put words in your mouth.

Nick if you can quote where I've said Foreign players have chosen against Manchester I'd love for you to do so please. You always do this on here, you make a stupid statement which everyone immediately proves wrong and then you change the point you were making and try and act like that was your point all along.



Enlighten me, can you actually read? Go back and read my post and see where you've made a silly.
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I'll take your word :p

You still can't feel hard done by for the players you used to get in. I would rather have an established EPL player than a foreign player who may or may not adjust to life in sunny olde England.

Still not many of those players ever got as far as sitting down with United and choose a different team.
 
The Running Man said:
This post here inferred that foreign clubs in nicer parts of the world beat us?
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No it doesn't, lets' break down my post:

It's weird how clubs with more money and in nicer places in the world sometimes beat us to players isn't it?
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Note there are two attributes attributed to the clubs here, more money and location. You stating Nasri doesn't disprove this at all because they obviously have more money than us. Now obviously there are other reasons players might not chose us but to put it simply among top players those two will usually be the reason at the moment.
 
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