Has AMD fixed its frame latency issues yet?

Dangerous_Dave · 15 May 2013 at 07:50

Just wondering if it's safe to go back in the red sea yet?

Before anybody's tempted. please nobody try to tell me AMD didn't have any latency issues, or they haven't personally noticed them, or Nvidia were just as bad, because 1) I disagree based on my own personal experience and 2) I really only specifically want to know if AMD have fixed their latency issues.

Cheers in advance

LtMatt · 15 May 2013 at 07:59

Dangerous_Dave said:
Just wondering if it's safe to go back in the red sea yet?

Before anybody's tempted. please nobody try to tell me AMD didn't have any latency issues, or they haven't personally noticed them, or Nvidia were just as bad, because 1) I disagree based on my own personal experience and 2) I really only specifically want to know if AMD have fixed their latency issues.

Cheers in advance

Latency has never been a problem for single gpu only in a couple of specific titles, that's now fixed. If you're referring to latency for multi gpu then the driver fix is coming in june. Most xfire users who post here all come to the conclusion that things are already smooth in the majority of games though so it will be interesting to see when the new drivers are out how people find them or if they stick with current method of higher fps/more latency with less input lag.

Gregster · 15 May 2013 at 11:19

No is the simple answer and should be sorted in June/July (hopefully).

ICDP · 15 May 2013 at 11:43

Gregster said:
No is the simple answer and should be sorted in June/July (hopefully).

Yes is the simple answer. The single GPU latency issues only affected a small number of games and were fixed with updated game profiles. If you plan to go CF then the issue still remains and the future drivers allegedly fix the problem but it's better to go with what works (SLI) than hope on a promise.

Yaayuh! · 15 May 2013 at 11:48

Gregster said:
No is the simple answer and should be sorted in June/July (hopefully).

Pretty much this.

Single card you should be ok but Crossfire not until June-ish.

Suarez7 · 15 May 2013 at 12:23

Single cards are fine now, crossfire fix coming next month.

welshrat · 15 May 2013 at 12:45

I appreciate its not what the OP asked but Radeon Pro pretty much sorts out most issues anyway, and is only as much hassle for me as going to nvidia control panel and setting up dynamic vsync. I am only posting as I was very hesitant about switching to red from a GTX 670 but couldn't be happier.

andybird123 · 15 May 2013 at 12:51

if someone asks you a yes/no question and your answer is "yes, but..." then really your answer is a no

as is saying "never... except"

just sayin'

Suarez7 · 15 May 2013 at 12:59

andybird123 said:
if someone asks you a yes/no question and your answer is "yes, but..." then really your answer is a no

as is saying "never... except"

just sayin'

He didn't explain if he wanted single or multi gpu though so it's worth us explaining :rolleyes:

ICDP · 15 May 2013 at 13:09

andybird123 said:
if someone asks you a yes/no question and your answer is "yes, but..." then really your answer is a no

as is saying "never... except"

just sayin'

The OP didn't specify if it was single or multi GPU, so I answered yes assuming the former. I added the "but" as a qualifier on the chance he is referring to multi GPU.

Much better answer than your "no" which implies even single AMD GPU has frame latency issues, even though it most certainly does not.

flopper · 15 May 2013 at 14:25

single gpu better than nvidia.
if they pull that off with multi gpu then nvidia is in for some hurt.

Locky · 15 May 2013 at 14:31

No is the simple answer if you don't know what you are doing, but you shouldn't be buying multi gpu setup if you don't have a bit about you anyway.

Yaayuh! · 15 May 2013 at 14:37

flopper said:
single gpu better than nvidia.
if they pull that off with multi gpu then nvidia is in for some hurt.

It is? When did they sort that out?
My GTX690 feels/looks smoother than the single 7970 i had let alone crossfired with another.

imginy · 15 May 2013 at 15:54

putting that flip que size to 1 does wonders for my amd's smoothness

Gregster · 15 May 2013 at 16:10

Sweet answers

Yes it is fixed for all games but not all games on a single card and crossfire is fixed also but not yet.

andybird123 · 15 May 2013 at 16:18

Gregster said:
Sweet answers

Yes it is fixed for all games but not all games on a single card and crossfire is fixed also but not yet.

yeah, but no, but yeah, but... shut up I never said nuffin

bru · 15 May 2013 at 16:19

Not wanting to be awkward or anything, but if AMD have said they will have a fix in a driver due in June, then the straight forward answer is no they haven't fixed it yet.

TheRealDeal · 15 May 2013 at 17:02

Rossi~ said:
It is? When did they sort that out?
My GTX690 feels/looks smoother than the single 7970 i had let alone crossfired with another.

The same nvidia fcat technology that proved amd had a problem with smoothness has now shown in reviews that the 7970 is smoother than all cards bar titan.

To sum up amd have no problem with single card setups. The driver they are releasing in june/july is to fix cfx.

For single card's amd released there memory management drivers back in 13.1 beta * to address the problem that was causing some games to stutter even with single cards.

Dangerous_Dave · 15 May 2013 at 17:38

I have to mistrust the answers that say that single cards never had a latency issue, and it was only ever crossfire, because I had smoothness problems with various different single cards going right up to the latest generation. With Nvidia these problems were much less noticeable. It was only after I stopped using AMD that I read about the frame latency discoveries, which as far as I can tell confirmed my experience that is was also single GPU AMD cards, not just multiple GPU setups.

So I don't really believe people if they try to say the AMD single card setups never had a problem. As for whether they've fixed the problem, summarising the above, some people say they've already fixed it, and some say they intend to fix it in June?

Suarez7 · 15 May 2013 at 18:07

Dave nobody is saying above that AMD never had problems, for your information I suffered latency issues on BF3 with my GTX 680. The graphs show that single GPU latency is lower on AMD cards than Nvidia nowdays so yes it is fixed for single GPU. As for your last sentence people are saying it's already fixed for single GPU but the crossfire fix is coming in June.