911 996 turbo or similar

Definitely not all done, as ultimately Mercedes depreciate to nothing eventually, but at £15-20k purchase, if you keep it nice, i would say minimal over 12 months.
 
out of personal curiosity, how does a DB7 stack up? they seam to be in the 20-25k bracket and have reached an age where depreciation has fallen off a bit.
 
25k For a decent Turbo is doable. The Mezger engine is much more reliable than the engine in other 996's and I cant see them depreciating as much as say a C4S or something. Just make sure you are sensible and do your homework to buy a good one. Try get one which has had work done recently as others have said on here they can throw up a very large bill.

From what I have read.(a lot) if you get a good one you can run them with routine servicing cheaper than an M car.
 
25k For a decent Turbo is doable. The Mezger engine is much more reliable than the engine in other 996's and I cant see them depreciating as much as say a C4S or something. Just make sure you are sensible and do your homework to buy a good one. Try get one which has had work done recently as others have said on here they can throw up a very large bill.

From what I have read.(a lot) if you get a good one you can run them with routine servicing cheaper than an M car.

I agree with you on the engine, it is a very solid hunk of metal and if the turbos are in good shape they are solid and don't suffer some of the common 911 issues to the same extent. However, the consideration isn't just the engine, there are lots of other expensive bits that will need maintaining and if you but one you need to check these too as they can throw up serious bills.

Brakes, dampers, diffs and clutches will get tired and will need swapping out and all with come with 4 figure bills. A 911 is all about set up and dodgy dampers can ruin the experience so I would want to know they were fresh and aligned. Clutches are also points of service, though I have never needed a clutch on a car in my life, some people are crap with using them and talk of 20K to 30K wear is common, though to me madness.

Transmission bits can also get pricey not least as you have a four wheel drive car with the associated servicing requirements. I think at 25K you are going to be looking at a tired car that will need some of these bits refreshing and though you can buy a sound car with a sensible history, it is likely to be higher mileage and needing some bits. If you spend 25K and then put 5K in a pot to make it mint I would suggest that is a wise approach. You may of course get lucky, chances are you won't however and will need to spend.
 
Hadn't thought of a db7, will have a look on autotrader tomorrow.

I've always wanted a TVR until I drove up the a3 and saw two broken down within 100m of each other.

I'll post up some links to some 996 turbos and let you pick them apart in terms of quality.
 
Just to give you an idea, my mate has a 996 turbo and recently put it in for a service, it needed one of the radiators replacing £800 ish, tyres all around which was around 1k (they last him less than a year) and the service and a MOT plus no doubt a couple of other things brought his bill upto 2.5k, i did notice them commenting on the discs needing replacing but he didnt do that.
 
Hi gibbo, what would you class as high miles as there looks to be a few good ones on PH For under 25k including a few from dealers? Any other car ideas, guess I could look at rs4/6?

Seeing as you were mentioning E46 M3s, guessing you don't fancy a E92 M3?
 
Tip wouldn't be for me but I know lots of people who say it suits the nature of the turbo.

Tin top is the only way to go! A convertible 911 sir? No thankyou.
 
I would personally only want a Tip Convertible.

The Tip box suits the turbo, and all other 911's for that matter. The box isnt a bad one at all.

Too much personal preference being cited here :D
 
Tip ruins the thing. If you want it for doing 30mph around town in d hood then fine, if you want to enjoy it dump tip and don't go cab rattle tastic
 
If you want to drive like a hooligan then yes the manual is the better bet in the 996.

If you want a nice car to actually use as transport on a daily basis, which is also a barrel of laughs, you HAVE to go with the tip. You dont want to be changing manually on a daily basis as if you are driving around in a van :p
 
I would personally only want a Tip Convertible.

The Tip box suits the turbo, and all other 911's for that matter. The box isnt a bad one at all.

Too much personal preference being cited here :D

Seriously the TIP is goddam aweful on the 911's, one of the worse boxes ever. I completely destroys what a 911 is all about, for me I was like damn this is terrible, it dulls the car.
I think its a terrible box, its simply not sporty or engaging at all, not even remotely and that's not what a 911 is about. Seriously for me tip in 996/997 ruined the car, I hated it beyond belief. Spie was perfect example he purchased a 997 Turbo tip as it was faster, but the tip ruined the experience, hence he got rid.

PDK was a huge improvement for 911, but still always a manual in 911 in my view, only the latest PDK in the latest cars could maybe sway me from a manual, but still be tough choice.
You can tell tip's are not popular, because manual's always sell at a higher price, they are simply more desirable in Porsche world. Tip cars can be hard to move it seems for dealers unless they really do a low price.
 
That is entirely personal preference, luckily shared by the many customers of Porsche who bought them in the first place. I liked the box in our 996 C4 Tip and wouldn't even take the time to view a manual.

As the cars age, the market for them naturally becomes more focused and enthusiast based, until the point where the cars become enthusiast only propositions. This select market will always trend towards the "drivers" option :)
 
That is entirely personal preference, luckily shared by the many customers of Porsche who bought them in the first place. I liked the box in our 996 C4 Tip and wouldn't even take the time to view a manual.

As the cars age, the market for them naturally becomes more focused and enthusiast based, until the point where the cars become enthusiast only propositions. This select market will always trend towards the "drivers" option :)

I repeat, if you want to pootle around town then buy a tip, if you want to take it into Wales on a Sunday morning to enjoy your sports car as most 911 enthusiast will then buy a manual. As an auto the tiptronic isn't a good one either and that is the issue.
 
As the cars age, and the market focus get tighter, a bigger proportion of the target market will certainly agree with you :)
 
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