Bradley Manning - 35yrs in the slammer :(

he exposed a lot of information indiscriminately, which could post risk to both soldiers and civilians alike.

The point most people miss. Whistleblowing is supposed to be targeted not some carpet bombing release of mass information. That's just plain irresponsible.
 
The point most people miss. Whistleblowing is supposed to be targeted not some carpet bombing release of mass information. That's just plain irresponsible.

imagine how angry you would be uponst finding out that everything you believed in was a big lie and the people you loved working for are actually killing and torturing people. he will have had years and years of being told how great the USofA was then suddenly found out it was all a lie.

i know i wouldnt of been thinking straight. in fact if it where a cheesy action film he would have gone on a killing spree ending with the president:p
 
imagine how angry you would be uponst finding out that everything you believed in was a big lie and the people you loved working for are actually killing and torturing people. he will have had years and years of being told how great the USofA was then suddenly found out it was all a lie.

Well really if he believed that then he truly was as daft and unstable as I think he probably was which makes you wonder why:

a) he was given such a position of trust
b) why Assange saw fit to take advantage of such a person
 
Whilst I could agree to what he was trying to do.
Trying to take on the American government is the dumbest thing you could ever do.

Not even surprised at this, he should be happy he is getting away with 35 years. I'm sure if certain people had their way this guy would never see the light of day again.
 

This video sums it up... actual war criminals walk away. Some dude whistle blows boom 35 years in the slammer.

All idiots in this thread saying DERP NERD SHOULD GET 60 YEARS DERP DA DERP. Keep eating all the ******** government feeds you, like believing Iraq war was for freedom!11!
 
Understand the thoughts of the majority of posters regarding, 'should have got longer', 'shoot him' etc, although am a bit disappointed.

What do you guys think should happen to the Marines who were shown to have murdered 24 civilians at Haditha?
 
I can't understand the mentality of some people in this thread, he is not some shining knight battling injustices. He broke an oath, committed treason and essentially handed over top secret documents to the enemy. Had he wanted to expose war crimes then be could have vetted the information he had before handing it over to a third party, but he didn't which most probably endangered people's lives and it's quite possible people have dies because of his careless actions.

He may not have pulled the trigger but if an innocent family got killed due to information he disclosed he is no different to any of the other scumbags shown in this thread who killed innocent people.

Had he exposed information that was only due to what he perceived as a coverup or war crimes then I would be singing different song, the fact is he didn't and he is very lucky not to have been put to death.
 
Ultimately, Manning's and Snowden's leaks will achieve nothing. And will achieve nothing at huge personal cost to themselves.

Did anyone expect this outcome to be different?

No the new fascist West is way too hard a nut to crack this will be our state of being until it crumbles from the inside, oh well bad luck for me and my kids.
 
it's quite possible people have dies because of his careless actions.

Brigadier general Robert Carr, a senior counter-intelligence officer who headed the information review task force that investigated the impact of the Wikileaks disclosures, said they had discovered no specific examples of anyone who lost his or her life in reprisals following publication of documents on the internet.

Let's be honest, Manning is an idiot who may have started off as a whistle blower but soon just started leaking documents in vast number, possibly for his own gains.

Bradley Manning began handing files to WikiLeaks on a specific basis, leaking detailed logs from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and video of an Apache gunship killing civilians in Baghdad.

But from there he graduated to much less discriminant disclosure and eventually passed over en masse hundreds of thousands of classified State Department cables.

He should be punished, as should those perpetrating in war crimes imo.
 
Understand the thoughts of the majority of posters regarding, 'should have got longer', 'shoot him' etc, although am a bit disappointed.

What do you guys think should happen to the Marines who were shown to have murdered 24 civilians at Haditha?
I think they should be tried for manslaughter at the very least but you know it won't happen because less people would sign up to the American killing machine
 
What do you guys think should happen to the Marines who were shown to have murdered 24 civilians at Haditha?

They should have been charged for murder on 24 counts and suffer the consequences of that ie permanent imprisonment if found guilty.

Let's be clear if Bradley had released the pertinent stuff then I would understand but he didn't he released pretty much everything he could. That was wholly irresponsible. I would hope charges or reckless dereliction of duty will also be raised against Bradley's NCO who it appears shares some culpability in this. The whole US ethos at that time should be examined ie the drastic increase in troops required for surge operations the lowering of the bar on quality - that should be placed at the door of Petraeus. The need for it should be placed at the politicians door.

As with every untoward incident the path is always muddy and compromised by several participants eg some of which I've detailed above. Unfortunately in all untoward incidents it's some poor sod at the bottom that gets scapegoated.

The facts are he should have never been in such a position to leak. He wouldn't have even been suitable if the "War on Terror" had never of started. He wouldn't have been found suitable if the goalposts on quality had never been lowered. He would never have had access if the warning signs had not have been ignored by his superiors. He would never have placed himself in such a position if Assange et al had seen what a disturbed person they were working with. But he still released masses of unvetted information into the public domain. For that he has to pay the price.
 
As said on the first page, I'm glad he's been punished. You break the law, you should expect to be punished.

What he's done will do absolutely nothing in the bigger picture, all he's done is cost himself his freedom
 
As said on the first page, I'm glad he's been punished. You break the law, you should expect to be punished.

What he's done will do absolutely nothing in the bigger picture, all he's done is cost himself his freedom

But still we can hope for Cumbra Viejo to drop and San Andreas to ripple as Yellowstone puffs to end the nightmare.
 
I can't understand the mentality of some people in this thread, he is not some shining knight battling injustices. He broke an oath, committed treason and essentially handed over top secret documents to the enemy..

Sensationalist garbage that is completely false, he was cleared of aiding the enemy so I guess that destroys your treason and helping the enemy line.
 
Apparently he's looking to start hormone therapy in order to become a woman. Is this some sort of clever plan to avoid military prison and be placed in a woman's prison instead?
 
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