windows Phone - who's tried it?

mark43 said:
I'd love to know how it excels by a country mile at email, browsing the web and watching videos, seriously.....?

Anyway, I don't want to get into a debate on that, as I said it seems very nice at what it does. But I think you underestimate how many people use their phones for additional tasks, my bank doesn't even have a windows app for example.
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Have you ever used a WP?

My brother, who is also a programmer and is very careful with security had his bank detail skimmed off his Galaxy tab, I wouldn't put my bank details or any other login where I could financially lose out into any Android device .... EVER.

Windows Phone, not a problem, no malware, everything's sand-boxed.
 
Brenn47 said:
Have you ever used a WP?

My brother, who is also a programmer and is very careful with security had his bank detail skimmed off his Galaxy tab, I wouldn't put my bank details or any other login where I could financially lose out into any Android device .... EVER.

Windows Phone, not a problem, no malware, everything's sand-boxed.
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I mean if you couldn't respond with a reason for WP being better you should just keep quite, instead of spreading FUD.

https://developer.android.com/guide/components/fundamentals.html

Once installed on a device, each Android app lives in its own security sandbox:

The Android operating system is a multi-user Linux system in which each app is a different user.
By default, the system assigns each app a unique Linux user ID (the ID is used only by the system and is unknown to the app). The system sets permissions for all the files in an app so that only the user ID assigned to that app can access them.
Each process has its own virtual machine (VM), so an app’s code runs in isolation from other apps.
By default, every app runs in its own Linux process. Android starts the process when any of the app’s components need to be executed, then shuts down the process when it’s no longer needed or when the system must recover memory for other apps.
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But please tell us more about how secure and safe your brother was, but lets dig deeper into your claims.

Surfing the Web on IE for mobile is less then great, complains don't care for, nothing is really tested on it, it doesn't have the same HTML5 support. Could go on for ages, no real advantage, and loads and loads of disadvantages.

Watching videos - Not sure how you can be better at this, you just play a file, and by the looks of it the Apps on Android seems to run the more complex files better e.g. googling for 10bit MKV seems to return them being laggy and buggy, doubt they run hardware accelerated either. Also on Android getting your files to show up is easier, seems a lot of the video play apps have bad ratings on WP since users got confused.

Email - Gmail being one of the biggest email provider means its not better on WP, and Android has a huge collection of great apps the new Outlook, its a shame MSFT own product isn't on its own platform.
 
You have obviously never seen or used a Windows Phone and have little knowledge of programming and UI design. Perhaps you'd be better off keeping quiet. ;)
 
im using it since wp8 ... one day i decided to give android a chance so i bought android phone after one week i gave it to my bro now i know 100% i will never buy android again its boring os with a lot of apps
 
We have lumia 635's as work phones. They are ok for what they are and a big step up on the non-smartphones we had before.

But I am sticking to android for my personal phone as it is much better at doing the things I use it for. And is better for email, web and video compared with the windows phone.
 
I like and I'm back to using it after another stint using Android...love live tiles to catch things at a glance and generally it's a pleasure to use.

With Windows 10 incoming the opportunity to fill those gaps that some have with app's will hopefully shorten...simply because you aren't just considering the Mobile Phone market share you are then talking about the combined Mobile Phone and Desktop PC market share as your potential customer base.

Apps will use 99% the same code through all Windows 10 devices and essentially the scaling is the only difference, that could be a game changer for users of the Mobile Phones :)
 
Brenn47 said:
Have you ever used a WP?

My brother, who is also a programmer and is very careful with security had his bank detail skimmed off his Galaxy tab, I wouldn't put my bank details or any other login where I could financially lose out into any Android device .... EVER.

Windows Phone, not a problem, no malware, everything's sand-boxed.
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I've used one but never owned one, and you're hardly convincing me. :p

I was trying to avoid a silly fan boy style argument, but you seem keen on it...

You've basically said that X, Y, and Z are far superior on the windows phone without backing it up with any facts or reasoning. I'm not terribly worried about my bank account, I only have to enter characters from a pass code to log in and I'm not aware of a large number of Nationwide customers having their accounts compromised, unless you are?

Is the lack of malware due to how wonderfully secure Windows is (I mean Microsoft do have a great reputation in this are... ;) )or is it similar to the app issue, i.e. the user base is to low to bother writing malware for it. I suspect the latter.
 
Brenn47 said:
You have obviously never seen or used a Windows Phone and have little knowledge of programming and UI design. Perhaps you'd be better off keeping quiet. ;)
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And your basing that on me posting facts that Android apps are actual sandboxed, and not only that but each has its very own VM, with its very own user ID that only has permissions for that app.

But please keep with your deflection tactics instead of actual answering a single question anyone asks. Funniest thing is I'm actual a lead UI engineer for a pretty big company, but please tell me more about how I have no knowledge of either field.
 
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Fallen god said:
And your basing that on me posting facts that Android apps are actual sandboxed
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I own a 2013 Nexus 7, I know all about how useless security is on Android, spyware, malware, why do things like flash-light apps need access to your contacts, location, etc .... I don't get any of those problems on my 920.

Admittedly WP8 tiles at first were a bit ****e, now the tiles are transparent, I'd say it's by far the nicest UI and far better that the boring old useless icons on the iPhone and Android.
 
Brenn47 said:
I own a 2013 Nexus 7, I know all about how useless security is on Android, spyware, malware, why do things like flash-light apps need access to your contacts, location, etc .... I don't get any of those problems on my 920.
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Very true, there are issues with permissions on Android, but that doesn't lead to spyware, or malware. 98% of all malware on Android was things installed outside the app store, most of watch needed root, the 2% where typically taken care off.

And somehow you know all about security in Android but have no clue that it offers the same sandbox that WP does, it offers basically the same set of permissions, and an App like a flash light could do the same exact thing on WP. The difference is their isn't enough users for it too ever matter right now. The same reason you hardly ever hear about a big malware app on Linux, but hear about it all the time on Windows, people target where the market share is.

And just to drive this point home for you, and off course I fully expect you too just ignore this like you do whenever you don't have an valid comeback. First result for Flash Light in the windows phone app store.

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-gb/store/app/flashlight-x/2638b778-5eab-45f1-a511-a08e1dbde751

App requires
phone identity
owner identity
video and still capture
music library
photos library
media playback
microphone
data services
phone dialer
movement and directional sensor
web browser component
HD720P (720x1280)
WVGA (480x800)
WXGA (768x1280)
photo, music, and video libraries
camera
compass
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Please do tell me how you "I don't get any of those problems on my 920".

Brenn47 said:
Admittedly WP8 tiles at first were a bit ****e, now the tiles are transparent, I'd say it's by far the nicest UI and far better that the boring old useless icons on the iPhone and Android.
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Live tiles do seem great, but an OS is so much more then just that, and like you said at first it was weird, I've had many people mention this to me and its sort of a love it/hate it thing that would put of a lot of users.
 
I have a Nokia Lumia 635, use it for Email, IE and Skype mainly. Really like the phone but never owned either iPhone or Android to compare.

Some people with iPhone don't like it when I say I have Windows phone, but whats the issue when Windows phone does everything I want at a fraction of iPhone cost.
 
Dimple said:
I can't wait for the reply from Brenn47
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It's pathetic that people who admitably have never owned a Windows Phone get all wound up because someone called their beloved Android phones UI boring and useless. It is boring and useless... icons were Windows XP/98, iPhone, pastel colours .... that's an update!? At least MS is trying.
 
Brenn47 said:
It's pathetic that people who admitably have never owned a Windows Phone get all wound up because someone called their beloved Android phones UI boring and useless. It is boring and useless... icons were Windows XP/98, iPhone, pastel colours .... that's an update!? At least MS is trying.
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but it's all the rubbish you came out with which he attacked.
eg Putting downf Android Flashlight and then Windows Phone Flashlight requires all the same stuff - you shot yourself in the head.
 
Brenn47 said:
It's pathetic that people who admitably have never owned a Windows Phone get all wound up because someone called their beloved Android phones UI boring and useless. It is boring and useless... icons were Windows XP/98, iPhone, pastel colours .... that's an update!? At least MS is trying.
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Change the icon set then.

Again, good luck doing that on WP.

Arguing against Android is fine, it's far from perfect, but arguing against it by just spouting complete garbage is just stupid.
 
Show me a Windows Phone flash-light app that needs to access your contacts.

I don't know what "downf" means but it's sad to see butt hurt Android fans criticising WP and admitting to have never owned one.
 
Holding up the Windows Phone UI as some sort of gold standard is really quite bizarre.

You may not like the iPhone UI (I do, though), but calling Android "boring" when you can literally change all of it is just plain odd.
 
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