Following Farage's resignation-that-wasn't, the knives come out

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Is anyone following the fracas going on among UKIPers at the moment?

The Guardian has a good live feed under their hopeful title of Ukip in turmoil as campaign chief condemns Farage, but leaving aside the obvious pleasure the Guardian is taking in it, there's certainly a fair mess going on:

Their only elected MP* has already fallen out with the party
Nigel's campaign manager described him as 'snarling, thin-skinned [and] aggressive'.
Geoffrey Bloom has properly got the knives out for Nigel and called for Carswell to be leader

What fun!

* - and if you ever needed a clear argument for election reform, the fact they could get 3.8 million votes and just one MP is it.
 
They've had their revenue stream decimated now the election has gone.

Best start some more "News"

How about a nice bit of "He said, She said" ?


Divide & Conquer always gets the juices flowing !!
 
Outcast said:
They've had their revenue stream decimated now the election has gone.

Best start some more "News"

How about a nice bit of "He said, She said" ?


Divide & Conquer always gets the juices flowing !!
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I'm having trouble parsing this. Anyone?

e: oh, you edited out all of the weird stuff which made no sense.
 
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Be a shame if UKIP implodes now, especially just after we finally know that uncontrolled immigration from the EU has driven down wages in the UK. Cameron wins again.
 
Judgeneo said:
Yeah things not looking good for them at the moment, it will be interesting how the next week or so plays out.
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It's very normal for parties that are not in power to shift around a fair bit soon after an election, happens to all the main 3 parties when they lose. I suspect they'll be a couple that leave, some to get promoted and some to change jobs within the ranks over the next few weeks and months and settle down again by September. Same happening in Labour and Lib-dems right now is it not? UKIP won't be imploding anytime soon, just standard reconfiguring
 
This is typical when a party relies on a figure head. Their flaws will eventually become public, poor Nigel 20+ years in the making and still not there yet
 
Parties thrive when they find a space in the political spectrum that no-one else is exploiting. With the Conservatives lurching to the right now that they're no longer in coalition, it makes you wonder where UKIP goes from here.

Ironically, a "no" vote in any referendum to leave the EU is likely to strengthen their cause, just like it did to the SNP in Scotland.
 
That pic of Douglas Carswell on BBC.... he looks like a right slimey car sales person... Just sayin
 
Liquidfox said:
Isn't this sort of already what happened in 2011 and people voted No? Or am I miles from the mark?
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Wasn't the reform we wanted, The lib-dems wanted PR and so did the populous, but then they got watered down to AV and then it got promoted it seemed so complex and strange that everyone voted for the system they understood instead
 
Adsta said:
That pic of Douglas Carswell on BBC.... he looks like a right slimey car sales person... Just sayin
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He has the same stigmatisum as Natalie Dormer doesn't he? He can't help what he's born with

Tunney said:
Parties thrive when they find a space in the political spectrum that no-one else is exploiting. With the Conservatives lurching to the right now that they're no longer in coalition, it makes you wonder where UKIP goes from here..
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Well they're certainly doing there best UKIP impression in the last couple of days, but time will tell if it's all mouth and no trousers.
 
robgmun said:
He has the same stigmatisum as Natalie Dormer doesn't he? He can't help what he's born with
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My comment wasn't really meant to be a swipe at him... It was more aimed at BBC. I'm sure they could have picked/selected/got a different better picture of him rather than the really dodgy pic they have used.
 
robgmun said:
Wasn't the reform we wanted, The lib-dems wanted PR and so did the populous, but then they got watered down to AV and then it got promoted it seemed so complex and strange that everyone voted for the system they understood instead
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You assume.

Because I at least would have voted no to PR as well.
 
i think Paul Nuttall should have taken over leadership. I bet Nigel only came back because the people he thought would take over didn't want to and he was left in a position of leaving the party he spent 15 years creating in the hands of someone who he thought was not up to it. But i am just guessing.
 
balky12 said:
Wouldn't PR just mean there would be more smaller minorities in Government. Making it easier for tit for tat counter voting to thrive?

Basically making it impossible to implement anything?
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Seems to work pretty well in almost every country on earth.
 
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