How far is this VW thing going to go?
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The Golf Estate has a bigger boot than your tractor. You could park your smokey diesel in the the back of the petrol Golf.
FYI
Golf Estate : 605 litres
X3 : 550 litres
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So you are saying the supercharged petrol variant doesn't deliver its power as pleasingly?
I do have to agree especially will the 3 litre 6 pot diesels, having all that torque to pull is amazing and I would miss it.
The v8 twin turbo diesels are very nice
But it's all there because it's turbocharged. A turbocharged 3 litre 6 pot petrol engine also has lots of pull. And is more refined. And smoother. And just more lovely.
[TW]Fox;28623860 said:
I must admit its probably cause I have only driven 3l 6 pots and v8 diesels and never really expereinced the petrol alternatives that i am saying that.
However, all that may be about to change.
In a major radical move i may be buying a 4.2l v8 petrol
The Golf Estate has a bigger boot than your tractor. You could park your smokey diesel in the the back of the petrol Golf.
FYI
Golf Estate : 605 litres
X3 : 550 litres
Can you cross a river with your hearse? Because well, mine can (and does)
Can you cross a river with your hearse? Because well, mine can (and does)
So what? Isn't this discussion about fuel types? A petrol X3 can presumably cross a river as well.
Can you cross a river with your hearse? Because well, mine can (and does)
Your point being?
We are discussing fuel types. I responded to a post earlier about whether you could buy a petrol car, with lots of space, that wasn't dog slow that did over 50MPG. It turns out there are a couple of options out there.
Anyway, a Golf R Estate & All Track (four wheel drive) could cross a river with a horse box, has more space, doesn't look ugly, is a lot quicker, costs less than your X3, has more equipment and doesn't pollute the environment with nitrogen dioxide. Anything else you want to mention ?
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[TW]Fox;28623569 said:
It probably does - I need to test drive one, and will consider the petrol V8 when I change in a few years time. The diesel makes peak torque at ridiculously low revs though (1750), which suits a very heavy car. Range is another consideration, with the diesel covering 450-500 miles between fill ups. The V8 version is about half that I think.
So just sticking back to the topic, I hear VW are planning a software update as a way to resolve this crises?
I would have thought it was going to involve replacement hardware like an updated exhaust in order for the cars to achieve the stated Nitrogen and Carbon levels.
Should be interesting to see what the software update does to the performance of the motor.
I would have thought it was going to involve replacement hardware like an updated exhaust in order for the cars to achieve the stated Nitrogen and Carbon levels.
Should be interesting to see what the software update does to the performance of the motor.
Yes I would have thoguht so. From my understanding is that is how they cheated the tests anyway. The ecu would sense the car was been tested and then inject loads more adblue into the system to make it run clean.
The issue is though, these cars have being designed with pathetically small tanks with just enough adblue to last you between services. If the software then say doubles the amount injected then people are going to have to top up the adblue between services.
And dont forget cars like Mercs wont even start or run home in limp mode if you run out of adblue.
Do these cars have adblue tank level dials out of interest or just a low adblue warning light?
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Queue a row of cars topping up with adblue, annoying the HGV drivers
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Will this be the beginning of the end for diesel cars now?
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People will still buy diesel because of the saving that is made on fuel. The EU/USA could decide their emissions are too high and not suitable anymore for the future?
They all have a warning light on already as far as I know. The issue is that adblue isnt available everywhere so you may have to carry around a can of pee with you just in case
I suspect so. The consultation going on about making 6 major cities either diesel car free zones or punitive cost £12.50 per day to enter with a diesel car by 2020 will only increase in pace and more then likely will get voted through with no issues now.
Once people have diesel cars which they cant use in Manchester or Birmingham then the second hand market will collapse and new sales will plummet.
As BMW have said, the way forward is small petrol engine with tri turbos with electric motors.