Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 452 45.0%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 553 55.0%

  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .
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I think the EU did affect the classic car rules. All major components in a classic car have to be over 25 years old now. You can't put a newer part in there or it will lose its classic car status and the perks that go along with that.

So nothing like the Doomsday scenario predicted by the Daily Mail then?
 
Yes yes smart *** - I presumed the article was recent as opposed to being 4yrs old as it was posted here. I checked the link on my phone.

Enjoy your moment.

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Yes yes smart *** - I presumed the article was recent as opposed to being 4yrs old as it was posted here. I checked the link on my phone.

Do you not think the fact that it's four years old and the changes it harbingers haven't happened is, perhaps, relevant to your wider point?
 
Bit sensationalist but worth a read. Doesn't seem to matter what the people want...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ls-Ukraine-deal-visa-free-travel-Rutte-Brexit

A bit sensationalist? That's 'a bit' of an understatement :D

As a result, the entire population of war-torn Ukraine is set to gain the right to travel throughout mainland Europe by as early as next month.

They already have the right to travel through mainland Europe, if they just pay for the visa, which has restrictions on the length of stay etc.....those restrictions will still be there? just they don't need the extra bureaucracy of applying and paying for a visa as far as I can see?.....so can someone explain to me what all the fuss is about?

The USA has visa free travel in the EU, they still have the same limitations on duration of stay and require their passport to be valid for 3 months later than stay etc
 
The irony is that had it gone the other way, the Express could just as easily reported "18% of Dutch people override the wishes of the UK in undemocratic EU!".

A newspaper would manipulate statistics in order to push its own agenda? You're living in cloud cuckoo land mate.
 
Do you really expect 2.5 million people (out of an electorate of 12.8m) voting in a non-binding referendum to determine the policy of a block of over 500m people? That's not democracy; it's tyranny of a tiny minority.

The irony is that had it gone the other way, the Express could just as easily reported "18% of Dutch people override the wishes of the UK in undemocratic EU!".

It was past the 30% threshold and ultimately the vote was a disagreement.

So when the hell does democracy start then Mr Jack, is it when 100% of the population moves their bums to vote on things? That it was ultimately non-binding is the only issue here, that will likely not subdue any Anti-EU rhetoric in the Netherlands.
 
It was past the 30% threshold and ultimately the vote was a disagreement.

So when the hell does democracy start then Mr Jack, is it when 100% of the population moves their bums to vote on things? That it was ultimately non-binding is the only issue here, that will likely not subdue any Anti-EU rhetoric in the Netherlands.

It's a tough question, and yes it does seem unfair. Do you support striking?
 
It was past the 30% threshold and ultimately the vote was a disagreement.

So when the hell does democracy start then Mr Jack, is it when 100% of the population moves their bums to vote on things? That it was ultimately non-binding is the only issue here, that will likely not subdue any Anti-EU rhetoric in the Netherlands.

Democracy starts at the line drawn by the laws. Before that line, democracy is not much more mob mentality, anarchy.
 
A bit sensationalist? That's 'a bit' of an understatement :D



They already have the right to travel through mainland Europe, if they just pay for the visa, which has restrictions on the length of stay etc.....those restrictions will still be there? just they don't need the extra bureaucracy of applying and paying for a visa as far as I can see?.....so can someone explain to me what all the fuss is about?

The USA has visa free travel in the EU, they still have the same limitations on duration of stay and require their passport to be valid for 3 months later than stay etc


It's been explained many times, by having VISA free travel the authorities no longer have the ability to vet the VISA applicants. It removes a major level of security, it adds ease by which miscreants can move freely around. Many, like myself, see it as a very bad and short sighted move, done to further the patently dying Liberal experiment that was the EU, before the experiment was truly tested and found wanting.
 
It was past the 30% threshold and ultimately the vote was a disagreement.

It was. It was still a very low turnout in one country of the EU in a non-binding referendum.

So when the hell does democracy start then Mr Jack, is it when 100% of the population moves their bums to vote on things?

I don't expect the EU to have it's democratic processes over-ruled by a tiny minority. It would be like Cornwall having a vote and then over-ruling the Westminster government.

That it was ultimately non-binding is the only issue here, that will likely not subdue any Anti-EU rhetoric in the Netherlands.

No, I don't suppose it will.
 
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