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Re-election.
Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)
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And you trust that torries won't take those rights away?
It's less likely that EU would take rights it's given from 500 milion people than UK government.
Honestly last thing I expected EU to be blamed for was that it doesn't care about EU population. I guess unlike UK government they actually spend money in areas that need it the most. Your Cornwalls, Norths etc if you wish, instead of Londons of EU. Yeah it may suck a bit for us but you already have support and opportunities to succeed in life. As long as one hasn't got blame sindrome in their head and actually tries to do something with their lives.
It's less likely that EU would take rights it's given from 500 milion people than UK government.
Honestly last thing I expected EU to be blamed for was that it doesn't care about EU population. I guess unlike UK government they actually spend money in areas that need it the most. Your Cornwalls, Norths etc if you wish, instead of Londons of EU. Yeah it may suck a bit for us but you already have support and opportunities to succeed in life. As long as one hasn't got blame sindrome in their head and actually tries to do something with their lives.
Historically, the EU has continued to improve workers' rights while UK governments have consistently sought to erode them.
I'd say it's reasonable to judge the EU on its track record, just as we do with governments.
What little workers rights laws we have taken on from the EU will be gone regardless of whether we stay in or not. Cameron already got that one in his pre negotiations if we were to stay in. So it is not a reason to stay in the EU.
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I guess because there might be votes in reducing immigration - remember when the Tories promised to cut net migration to the 'tens of thousands'?
And you trust that torries won't take those rights away?
It's less likely that EU would take rights it's given from 500 milion people than UK government.
Honestly last thing I expected EU to be blamed for was that it doesn't care about EU population. I guess unlike UK government they actually spend money in areas that need it the most. Your Cornwalls, Norths etc if you wish, instead of Londons of EU. Yeah it may suck a bit for us but you already have support and opportunities to succeed in life. As long as one hasn't got blame sindrome in their head and actually tries to do something with their lives.
Nope - I don't trust the tories at all which is why I never vote for them at general elections. "It's less likely" - does that mean blind trust? Public pressure in the UK has forced the Tories into several u-turns, most recently their plans to scrap child tax credits. Have you considered that if the EU were to get rid of some of these worker's rights, it might be a tad more difficult, if not impossible, getting them to u-turn.
It's odd because the wealth gap between the the south-east and the rest of the country has never been higher. So what exactly has the EU achieved by spending all this money in Cornwall and the North?
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It is certainly going that way for them.
No I don't think it would be impossible, I think 500 people across 28countries have more power.
As for your 2nd paragraph, read again what I said instead of reading what suits you (again). I said EU spends most of it money in poorer areas that need it more than already rich areas.
We wouldn't need to get involved because the entirety of France would be setting fire to things on our behalf.
Why are a significant percentage of 500 million people going to mobilise against something that only affects the UK?
Yes but there's spending money for money's save and there's spending it effectively. The poorer areas of Spain have had loads of money spent on them building lovely roads and airports, but if no-one is using them how does it aid those areas to become richer?
What makes you say that?
I caught a little of an interview on Radio 2 at lunch time, the pro exit representative was calm and confident while the remain guy was nervous and overly defensive. The remain camp really need to up their game.
There's been a massive surge in support for parties in those countries who's manifestos pledge to have a referendum on leaving.
Most surprising was the surge in support at polls for a party in Germany (sounded essentially like they're version of UKIP) that secured 29% of votes in recent elections.
People are fed up with immigration.
The problem is only going to get worse in the near term, so they will continue to gather support.
France, the Netherlands, and the Czech Republic are the most likely imo. Big support there for the idea, and rising too.
From what you read online, the Dutch seem the closest (I remember saying this a couple of months back in the who's next thread). However, from my experience, the Dutch embrace the EU much more then we do here so find an actual leave unlikely. (Yes, I know I would never have met a representative (nor large enough) sample base.)
France is very close too, a recent poll said half of the population wanted their own Frexit vote.
http://europe.newsweek.com/brexit-frexit-france-germany-sweden-spain-eu-referendum-436510
http://europe.newsweek.com/brexit-frexit-france-germany-sweden-spain-eu-referendum-436510
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A spectator article on the £4300 figure from Osbourne, it's things like this that reinforce the mistrust of politicians, and the argument that we won't be voting based on truths (both sides)
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/the-deceptions-behind-george-osbornes-brexit-report/
Granted, I haven't done the maths or read the report so can't say for certain they're correct.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/the-deceptions-behind-george-osbornes-brexit-report/
Granted, I haven't done the maths or read the report so can't say for certain they're correct.
I don't blame them at all. After the atrocities they have had. Germany too have had bad experience with people freely moving across borders. After the UK leaves they will certainly have referendums as the pressure will be immense.
They forgot to include the amount we save by not being in the EU which is over £9k. So it is very much a positive not being in the EU.
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