2 staff have left without notice - anything i can do?

Fairly sure the answer is no said:
well you've made a whole load of assumptions and are thankfully wrong. they didn't need money early to eat, i didn't say that they did.

i've no idea why this forum is so hostile and quick to pick apart at tiny brief bits of information and then fill in the gaps with huge assumptions.
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you said yourself your dealing with minimum wage employees? so are/were you paying them minimum wage?

if the answer is yes yet you lost thousands of pounds by losing them for should this not of been reflected in their pay?

I understand you want to make money as an employer but as I argued a lot with my previous employer that if you are the in the top tier employer in a badly paid job sector you will be able to take your pick of the top tier staff in that sector, if that's low paid cleaning there are still some damn good hard working cleaners out there that deserve to earn and a willing to work for a good pay cheque.

I feel sorry for you as this has clearly hurt you and hopefully you can use this experience to grow the business.
 
Minimum wage, minimum effort to be honest.

Seen it many times. Even the hardest workers stop caring of they don't see some sort of progression.
 
Converse to this, I knew a guy who was offered a new job, quit his old job only to find when turned up on his first day that the offer had been withdrawn.

Took his new 'employer' to court, spent £30k on legal fees and got £0 back.

Seems employment contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on.
 
Out of curiousity..what country were they from?

Also as above ^^ minimum wage = minimum effort. Seemed like casual work..some days work and some days not so much. So yeah if thats the case why didnt you get onto the JC for staff for immediate start after you heard bonnie and clyde scarpered? I'm sure there would have been loads champing at the bit to earn a bit of money.
 
MeatLoaf said:
If you have the loan in writing you can probably small claims court for the £200 owing.

Judge Rinder ;)
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luckily due to a cleverly worded message i sent, he has now paid the £200 he owed so we are now all clear and even.

there's no point going into greater detail really as unless i write an essay explaining every single details the end result will be users on here picking apart everything based on their own ideas of what's happening.

as it turns out other staff have expressed a joy in them going. I've been told, amongst other things, the staff actually dreaded working in their team, but as the remaining staff were team players they did what was necessary and got on with the work, but they all wanted to work (in their own words) "with the best boss they've ever worked with". so i'm happy about that :cool:

i think on reflection it was the wife that was the bad egg and they together wound each other up with their silly own non-issues. she wanted out and he being the coward he is, followed without having the guts to give notice.

I'm excited to see who we go for next and to learn from these mistakes :)
 
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I would have to be very unhappy in my current job to leave without notice.

I am slightly confused though. Do you pay them in advance for the month? If so, why? If not, no they do not owe you a thing, except maybe extra used holiday money etc...

Edit: Just read your last post and fair enough. Sounds like they did you a favour rather than other staff leaving.
 
Let it lie but I would strongly suggest reviewing and updating your contracts/HR side of things.

Also don't let people walk all over you - you are the boss. How did/does other employees feel if one couple get a month off over christmas and others don't.

Treat your employees the same, treat them well, pay them well but don't single out an employee for extra time off/bonus/wages in advance as that is a bad way to run a business as other employees will get the hump and staff moral will be very poor leading to other issues.
 
Sorry but if you're paying minimum wage then as far as I'm concerned they can leave when ever they want. I feel for you in that if they owe you money they should pay it back, but not in the fact they didn't work a notice period. I hope they've both moved on to better paid work, a minimum wage existence is terrible.
 
I'd be asking myself why they are leaving, before asking - how can I engineer the role to make it punitive for people to leave without notice.
 
Skiddley said:
I'd be asking myself why they are leaving, before asking - how can I engineer the role to make it punitive for people to leave without notice.
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and then when you get the answer as to why, wouldn't it make sense to then move onto the next question, as has happened here? i'm not really sure your point? do you want us to congratulate you for also doing exactly as i did?
 
So let me get this straight, its a minimum wage job, yes? Sorry but this thing happens all the time. I've done more than a few McJob's in my time and its as disposable as the packaging a burger comes in and yes I've quit a few with little or no notice. You walk into the job one day and out the next. Sorry its hurt you so much but its almost certainly nothing personal they've got enough money to quit and do something else or have another job lined up somewhere else. And if its another like for like job do you think the new employer is going to wait a month for their existing notice to work out? Its start tomorrow or else we'll give it to someone else.
 
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