Finsbury Park Van Attack

chroniclard · 20 Jun 2017 at 10:50

Plenty of bile here.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=d...kszUAhWLL8AKHUsPBLcQ_AUICygC&biw=1920&bih=974

dalehitchy1 · 20 Jun 2017 at 10:50

Schlong&Stable said:
Can you giive an example of hate filled bile directed at Muslims from the mainstream media?

Every single Christmas since around 10+ years ago we will get a news story on how Muslims want to ban christmas. This was a myth busted years ago (tho I'm sure the odd one or two agree with it) muslims as a whole don't want to ban christmas.

Same goes for Easter. Some companies don't print Easter on their boxes and all of a sudden muslims want to ban Easter.

There was some story Muslims ruining Subway because particular stores only sell Halal meat. It was on the daily mail. It didn't mention that Subway Was a franchise that anyone could open and sell the type of meat they wanted depending on the area and customer base. It was written as if all stores are doing it. And that Muslims want to ban pork.

Edit: here it is

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...res-strong-demand-Muslims-eat-Halal-meat.html

Then look at at the news stories about Muslims / EU immigrants on JSA. Making them look like most are draining the economy. I don't doubt that lots are on it... But as a whole..... No.

Stuff like this over a period over 10 years paints a negative stereotype of Muslims and immigrants. By all means point out terrorism...

Freakbro · 20 Jun 2017 at 10:53

Schlong&Stable said:
Can you giive an example of hate filled bile directed at Muslims from the mainstream media?

Really....lol

Just one of many examples they have been brought to task for over their reporting

The Sun and Daily Mail accused of 'fuelling prejudice' in report on rising racist violence and hate speech in UK
European Commission against Racism and Intolerance criticises 'reckless' reporting

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...ate-crime-speech-uk-ecri-report-a7351856.html

Schlong&Stable · 20 Jun 2017 at 10:53

chroniclard said:
Snip

Which of these do you think promotes hatred of Muslims? Half of them are explicitly about immigration, many of the rest are about terrorists. Is this the sum of the evidence showing the media bias against Muslims? If so, it's an extremely weak argument, especially when you look at the number of pro-Muslim articles.

jonneymendoza · 20 Jun 2017 at 10:56

I was in Finsbury park a few days ago....

tbh i am not surprised. a retaliation of some sort was bound to happen.

But listen all, what can we do to prevent terrorist attacks from both sides?

Start banning driving in london unless you are a licensed delivery or taxi/bus driver?

Build barriers on every single pavement in london?

stopper · 20 Jun 2017 at 10:59

Efour said:
Has the deffintion of terrorism evolved now so that anyone doing anything is a terrorist.
..........
I don't get it anyone care to explain?

Yes.
"Terrorism" is a stepping stone to allow the political elite to arm and protect themselves from an eventual, but inevitable uprising. (history repeating itself, again)
Sounds crazy, but that is exactly what's happening.

Schlong&Stable · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:01

Freakbro said:
Really....lol

Just one of many examples they have been brought to task for over their reporting

You think it is unacceptable for media to discuss the changing demographics of a nation? And honestly, who cares what some EU commission thinks. They are political institutions with a vested interest in the matter.

dalehitchy1 · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:03

Every single Christmas since around 10+ years ago we will get a news story on how Muslims want to ban christmas.... And we are being forced to say 'happy holiday's instead of 'merry christmas' in case it offends muslims. This was a myth busted years ago (tho I'm sure the odd one or two nutcases agree with it) muslims as a whole don't want to ban christmas.

Same goes for Easter. Some companies don't print Easter on their boxes and all of a sudden muslims want to ban Easter.

There was some story Muslims ruining Subway because particular stores only sell Halal meat. It was on the daily mail. It didn't mention that Subway Was a franchise that anyone could open and sell the type of meat they wanted depending on the area and customer base. It was written as if all stores are doing it. And that Muslims want to ban pork.

Edit: here it is

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...res-strong-demand-Muslims-eat-Halal-meat.html

Then look at at the news stories about Muslims / EU immigrants on JSA. Making them look like most are draining the economy. I don't doubt that lots are on it... But as a whole..... No.

Stuff like this over a period over 10 years paints a negative stereotype of Muslims and immigrants. By all means point out terrorism...

Schlong&Stable · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:06

zoomee said:
I see none of you pointing out jewish dysfunction nor hindu dysfunction nor sikh dysfunction. Most of those critical of Islam here in this forum ONLY pick on Islam.

When Hindu's start attacking concerts, blowing up buses and forming rape gangs, we'll start criticising them. When Jewish terrorists behead journalists, enslave Christians and film themselves setting prisoners of war on fire, we'll start criticising them. When Sikh's start forcing their women to live lives of servitude to males, refusing them education or allowing them to drive, well start criticising them. When the world from West Africa to East Asia is the subject to constant violence, terrorism and conflict triggered by Islam, Judaism or Sikhism, all the whilst millions of them pour into our continent, we'll start criticising them.

jonneymendoza · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:07

Schlong&Stable said:
When Hindu's start attacking concerts, blowing up buses and forming rape gangs, we'll start criticising them. When Jewish terrorists behead journalists, enslave Christians and film themselves setting prisoners of war on fire, we'll start criticising them. When Sikh's start forcing their women to live lives of servitude to males, refusing them education or allowing them to drive, well start criticising them. When the world from West Africa to East Asia is the subject to constant violence, terrorism and conflict triggered by Islam, Judaism or Sikhism whilst millions of them pour into our continent, we'll start criticising them.

They dont. at this moment in time its ISIS who say they are islam are the ones causing all this mess.

every other religoin is humble and getting on with life

chroniclard · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:08

Sorry, but if you are claiming the Sun, Daily Mail, Express dont fuel hate you are delusional. Its a literally endless splurge of anti muslim rhetoric and bile.

zoomee · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:10

dalehitchy1 said:
Stuff like this over a period over 10 years paints a negative stereotype of Muslims and immigrants. By all means point out terrorism...

The government purposely don't stop it - They could if they wanted. However it plays into their local narrative of stripping liberties from the population under the guise of 'security'. Fear makes everyone give up everything dear to them.

It also helps justify bombing another middle-eastern country to help support some dictator we put in place years ago, because it 'helps our economy' - no surprise when we are the worlds second largest arms supplier

It's called 'justification' I believe. One has to justify horrible actions somehow. Just take a look at how many islam-negative films poured out of Hollywood last year - 99% were all portraying muslims in a negative light as terrorists.

And you all think this isn't going to have any ramifications? - This crap is playing into both sides of the extremist camp. Keep us divided - the only people that win are the politicians.

dalehitchy1 · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:13

The sun has so much negative things about Muslims they may as well rename the paper 'The Sunni'

Freakbro · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:13

Schlong&Stable said:
You think it is unacceptable for media to discuss the changing demographics of a nation? And honestly, who cares what some EU commission thinks. They are political institutions with a vested interest in the matter.

Hey, it's no surprise you don't see it, they are just preaching to the converted

You could have also read past the headline to see that the numerous retractions they have been ordered to print concerning the lies they print over these types of stories didn't come from the EU....but again, no surprise that's all you took from the article

zoomee · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:14

Schlong&Stable said:
When Hindu's start attacking concerts, blowing up buses and forming rape gangs, we'll start criticising them. When Jewish terrorists behead journalists, enslave Christians and film themselves setting prisoners of war on fire, we'll start criticising them. When Sikh's start forcing their women to live lives of servitude to males, refusing them education or allowing them to drive, well start criticising them. When the world from West Africa to East Asia is the subject to constant violence, terrorism and conflict triggered by Islam, Judaism or Sikhism, all the whilst millions of them pour into our continent, we'll start criticising them.

And I can link you EVERY single thing you have pointed out there for ALL them religions. There are idiots in all walks of life.
YOU Thompson_NCL are a prime example of what I've just said - you seem to think its all rosy in other religions and ONLY islam suffers from these issues. Where did you get this from? oh yes, the media. Quick to highlight when a muslim does it but ignores it when hindu's are gang raping women, blowing up buses and attacking temples and other places of worship. Don't get me started on Jewish terrorism - its still taking place in Israel - The 'beacon of democracy crap' - lol.

What do you expect when 99.6% (to be precise) of crap that churns out of hollywood is anti-muslim. You just soak it all up.

dowie · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:14

zoomee said:
It's called 'justification' I believe. One has to justify horrible actions somehow. Just take a look at how many islam-negative films poured out of Hollywood last year - 99% were all portraying muslims in a negative light as terrorists.

or presumably the other way around, the terrorists in these films were muslims... which isn't exactly an uncommon thing in reality either

Efour · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:19

Islam is the new Soviet Union. Anyone old enough can see that. The big threat that our enlightened governments will protect us from.

zoomee · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:19

dowie said:
or presumably the other way around, the terrorists in these films were muslims... which isn't exactly an uncommon thing in reality either

Maybe in your own twisted reality. Statistics in america clearly show the white supremacist is more of a danger than the 'muslamic' one. But hey, don't let me get in the way of your twisted reality

Ask any muslim actor - there's plenty of them complaining out there that the only roles they are offered are roles of being terrorists.
Hollywood is only interested in employing muslims if they play the 'baddie'.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...fidels-time-to-fix-hollywoods-problem-muslims

zoomee · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:20

Efour said:
Islam is the new Soviet Union. Anyone old enough can see that. The big threat that our enlightened governments will protect us from.

+50 gazillion.

Robbo · 20 Jun 2017 at 11:21

While it's entirely true the media do peddle negative rhetoric, things really only kick off when a terrorist who identifies as Muslim carries out an attack on British soil. The sad reality is, the religion is heavily associated with terrorism, even if it is a very small number of people.