Apple slows your iPhone down "to conserve battery"

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This reminds me of the whole GTX 970 ram fiasco. In the end nobody really noticed anything and probably upgraded before any issue surfaced. Another load of hyperbole.

This seems like a sensible fix to me.
 
asim18 said:
drunkenmaster knows what he's talking about.


What I don't understand is why don't they simply accomplish this using screen brightness.

Android has this feature when you put the screen above 80% it warns you that it will be using too much battery.

They could have simply limited the screen brightness. Less photons being ejected from the screen does certainly equate to less energy usage. This nonsense with limiting CPU performance which means it has to work longer to perform the same task is just nonsense.
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The energy used by the CPU would far outweigh that of brightness, especially in highly demanding applications.
 
If people can't see it's just one big money making scheme then they are blind.

I honestly don't understand why anyone would buy an iPhone, so so bad. Not to mention Apple is such a greedy company, can't stand it.
 
bremen1874 said:
If you don't have/like/want an iPhone why do you need to have an opinion?
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Was that aimed at me? I don't need to like something to have an opinion about it. This is a public forum I can have an opinion about anything I want don't need your permission.
 
A2Z said:
If people can't see it's just one big money making scheme then they are blind.

I honestly don't understand why anyone would buy an iPhone, so so bad. Not to mention Apple is such a greedy company, can't stand it.
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I used to have iPhones, but not anymore. I just don't like apple as a company, they treat their customers with contempt. Their phones are behind the top android phones now, but you still pay a premium.

I do think people are starting to realise though and this will further put doubts in people's minds.
 
The crux of the matter is, and probably has been mentioned before, is that Apple should have disclosed this earlier and not when Geekbench et al released their findings. Also they should have presented the option to the owners, let them decide if they wanted the throttling or not, might have avoided the onslaught of class lawsuits.

Maybe a Judge will order Apple to replace batteries for free.
 
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This is just planned obsolescence with a more palatable justification. I haven't had an iPhone in years because of this. It's a shame really because the iPhone interface is absolutely awesome.

I have had three iphones that became unusable when a newer model was released. First the iPhone 3, then 4, and then 5. In each instance a newer version was released and my older phone became virtually unusable with whatever software update was released at the same time. What was annoying is that the updates were only ever marginally cosmetic.... no justification for the performance drop off other than it must have been done on purpose.

I've had a HTC m8 for three years now and it performs just as well as it did the day I bought it. It's an average phone with an average interface, but I've stuck with it simply because HTC haven't been utter ***** and purposefully gimped it.
 
Tunney said:
If Apple wanted to force people into upgrading phone every two years, the best way would be to stop offering 4-5 years of free software upgrades.
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No that would not work, they cannot bump the speed of the phone down 50% in 1 or 2 upgrades.. 90% of people don't care about upgrades to phone os but if you let the device upgrade for free over several years you can knock 10 / 15% speed off the device each update so after 4 or 5 years the device is unusable... Either I've got a lot faster or my note 4 has got a lot slower since I got it...
 
i'm done with Apple phones after reading about this. Such an underhanded rip off merchant of a company. I'll stick with my 6s until it's done and then i'll be jumping ship.
 
Lol. So my battery life takes a dive with iOS 11, and they’re telling me they’re trying to do me a favour? How inefficient is Apple’s code?

6S will be my last Apple device, I can’t see any reason to purchase another with all this nonsense.
 
A2Z said:
If people can't see it's just one big money making scheme then they are blind.
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It's not, Apple got caught with their pants down after running the batteries too hard long term. They made a (bad) decision to stop sudden shutdowns via throttling devices with aging batteries.

I'm annoyed that the device doesn't notify it's throttling to protect itself and recommends service. I'll happily have it repaired instead of buying a new iPhone.
 
MagicBoy said:
It's not, Apple got caught with their pants down after running the batteries too hard long term. They made a (bad) decision to stop sudden shutdowns via throttling devices with aging batteries.

I'm annoyed that the device doesn't notify it's throttling to protect itself and recommends service. I'll happily have it repaired instead of buying a new iPhone.
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This is the problem, it's just not true, by the time a battery gets low enough voltage output to cause shutdowns at normal clock speeds, that battery is going to be literally refusing to charge. Voltage regulators generally work over a pretty wide range and batteries come in 3+ volts and won't charge in most cases below around 2.7v, the cpus run at maybe 1v in a mobile device. Voltage and shut downs isn't an issue. They've been caught slowing down the CPU on release of new devices(how it took this long I don't know) and they've released a semi technical excuse which most people won't understand and might believe it's plausible. There is no way that a battery providing well over 3v, degrades a little, drops say 0.2v and the voltage regulators can no longer step this down to ~1v.

The downclocking for stability is a complete excuse and any idea that they downclock to save battery life is also utter bull. Devices absolutely do this when at critical battery life but not when at full charge on an older battery. LIterally no other mobile devices do this. You don't buy a device with a given performance level just to accept that as battery degrades (which we all know has always happened and accept that as part of the technology) the device performance does too (which no one has ever accepted and has never been standard on any device aside from Apple ones).

This is purely a move to push people to upgrade and push people away from just replacing the battery after a couple of years. They won't want to sell you a £600 phone then two years later sell you a £70 battery then another two years sell you another £70 battery when they can push you to spend £600 on a new device every two years.

What needs to be deeply investigated is if Apple specifically push out aggressive downclocking modes or specific over taxing only on older phone software within new iOS updates released with new phones. I suspect that is actually what happens, let people have their normal device performance on new phones, when the next gen phone is released they release a new version of iOS that tells older phones to downclock more aggressively, this way the lacking performance to users feels like their old phone unable to cope with the rigours of a more up to date and powerful operating system and makes them think their old devices are much slower with newer software than newer phones making them want to update.
 
LiE said:
The sensible approach would have been to make this information available earlier and provide a paid service to replace the battery. That should extend the life of many phones, which means less upgrades, so naturally Apple won't want to do this.

It's seems hugely wasteful that we will have to change our phone because the battery is baked into the product, and the battery only has a certain life span. I mean it's genius from a business perspective, but not great for people who are happy with keeping a phone for longer.
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Again, lots of other manufactures with non-removable batteries that are not reducing performance.

Worst case they should drop to around 80-85% of the originally capacity over 12 months, Galaxy S8 and Note 8 shouldn't drop much lower than 95% over 12 months such is the effort they're put into their batteries.

If Apple feel the need to throttle then they must be degrading much faster, maybe something about their design or SoC is stressing the battery too much and causing rapid degradation? I doubt Apple will ever share the real reason their doing this, just the BS excuses they know their fans will lap up.

But now we know, so as fast as an iPhone can be it won't last, another reason to avoid them.
 
It's complete fraud to make you upgrade.
They got caught. That's a disgusting way to treat your customers but actually not surprised.

Won't. Change anything and I wonder if other huge players do similar?
 
Shocky-FM said:
Worst case they should drop to around 80-85% of the originally capacity over 12 months, Galaxy S8 and Note 8 shouldn't drop much lower than 95% over 12 months such is the effort they're put into their batteries.
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I don't know why you have so much faith in Samsung's batteries. Batteries were failing prematurely on the note 4 and exploding on the note 7....I'm a lot more pessimistic about Samsung.
 
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