Is it worth getting a PS4 pro or Xbox one X to use with a 1080p TV?

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As per above I have a regular Xbox one and PS4 but wondered whether i'd see any benefit by upgrading to a pro/X given I only have a 1080p TV?
 
For patched games you should see benefits in the frame rate on both, enhanced visuals and the likes.

Whether it's worth it or not, that's going to be subjective.
 
I haven't bothered. I was tempted at first, but for 1080p the gains just don't seem to justify the cost.

If the base PS4 was completely struggling with newer games whilst they performed admirably on the Pro it'd be a different story, but that's not really the case from all the comparisons I've seen.
 
I personally wouldn't bother, I don't think the extra gains are worth the cost unless you have a 4K TV as well, I would rather put the cash towards a 4k TV first, although I reckon an ideal time to buy a 4k will be around 2019/20, because 4K/HDR and DV is still in its infancy.

Plus the fact the X seems to be bug and fault ridden currently, only need to look at the number of exchanges taking place over the last couple of weeks on here.
 
I got the PS4 Pro as I love the PS4 and the exclusive games it offers. But a year on, I realise it was a stupid purchase because I don't think the few benefits you get for 1080p were worth shelling out for, especially as I never sold my OG PS4 which is sitting in the cupboard all alone and getting dusty. So the X1X at £150 more is definitely out of the question. Especially as my next purchase (iMac) is costing an arm and a leg. :p That £450 for X1X will go towards upgrading to an SSD and extra RAM.
 
Still worth getting even if you'r just gaming @ 1080p. I find it jarring using original PS4 or Xbox One after using either the Pro or X.
 
I have both and got them for the enhanced frame rate and visuals. The Xbox one s barley hits 1080p where as this does it fine. But I upgraded from both and sold the old consoles so it cost me a lot less to make the change. And also when I get a 4K tv I’m ready
 
I've considered getting both but I'm happy with my 1080p TV for now, might be nonsense but I've heard a lot of negative reports of upscaling when watching HD and SD on a 4k screen, is this the case?

90% of my TV use will be watching Sky rather than gaming so until more TV content is 4k I'm not sure it's worth it for me personally.
 
TALON1973 said:
Let's flip this abit..... What TV do you have OP?
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I have a Sony BRAVIA X Series KDL-40X2000 40" which I use for connecting my gaming consoles as it has an analogue tuner and scart connections for older hardware. It's about 11 years old but was pretty high end at the time. I have newer 46"1080p bravia in the lounge but don't really want to hook up consoles there as it's the family room.

I'd been intending holding fire on getting a 4k TV until the next generation of games consoles are released. By that time native 4k should be a thing and standards like HDR will hopefully have been sorted out.

However, I was mulling over getting PS4 pro in the meantime as I found quite a few games I've been playing looked kind of pixelated and low detail (horizon: zero dawn for example). Or at least they did to my eye compared to what I'm used to on PC.

Hence why I'd wondered whether a ps4 pro would make any difference Vs the regular one?
 
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I have recently bought a XB1X and it's being used on my Sony TV which is only 1080p. The TV is a Sony Bravia KDL-40NX803 and was one of the best TV's around a the time when I bought it nearly 8yrs ago.

I can't tell you about differences in terms of frame rate and quality as I came from having the original PS3 (the very first fat version) so of course everything looks massively better than that!.

However when using the 'Insects' thing you can get on the XBox Store that demonstrates the difference that can be made with the SuperSampling feature the XB1X has. But i believe this only works on the 'XB1X enhanced' games, of which there are around 100 now. I bought Forza Horizon 3 Ultimate last night as it has 50% off for the next 2 wks and the graphics on that are amazing!
 
silvagti said:
As per above I have a regular Xbox one and PS4 but wondered whether i'd see any benefit by upgrading to a pro/X given I only have a 1080p TV?
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After owning a PS4 pro with a 1080p panel, i'd say no. It makes more sense with a 4k screen and is certainly better, but still isn't night and day. The problem with these beefier iterations is they're hamstrung by the weaker versions and what respective devs decide to do with the power.
 
sparkymark75 said:
Do PS4 Pro enhanced games provide supersampling?
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Not sure how up to date this is. But only a handful say supersampling according to the list here: www.gamesradar.com/ps4-pro-confirmed-games-list/

A
  • Abzu - 2400x1350 resolution, 45-60fps, more rendered fish.
  • ARK: Survival Evolved
  • Arizona Sunshine (VR) - 1920x1080 resolution, MSAA anti-aliasing, better rendering, increased LOD and draw distance.
  • Assassin's Creed Origins - up to 4K resolution using dynamic resolution scaling.
  • Assassin's Creed Syndicate - 2880x1620 resolution.
  • Assassin's Creed: The Ezio Collection - 4K resolution, 30fps, high quality textures.
  • The Assembly - Higher resolution VR support.
B
  • Batman: Return to Arkham - 1920x1080 resolution, higher poly count and texture resolution textures, 30fps framerate with increased stability.
  • Battleborn - 4K/30fps, 1080p/60, 1080p/30 resolution options and 'enhanced visuals."
  • Battlefield 1 - 2880x1620 resolution, 60fps via dynamic resolution scaling, higher resolution textures, better draw distance.
  • Battlezone (VR) 3360x1890 resolution (downscaled to 1080p for VR at 120hz), Dynamic cockpit lighting, increased resolution of screen-space reflections.
  • Batman: Arkham VR - minor graphical improvements.
  • Bound - Geometry edges rendered in 4K native, inner parts of polygons rendered with multisampling antialiasing and upscaled from 1080P, improved PSVR resolution
  • The Brookhaven Experiment
  • Bulletstorm: Full Clip Edition - "up to" 4K resolution support, running at a smoother frame rate.
C
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 - 4K checkerboard resolution, HDR lighting, and HD textures.
  • Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare - up to 4K/3840x2160 checkerboard resolution with dynamic resolution scaling.
  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered - "Richer textures and dynamic 4K"
  • Call of Duty: WW2 - Increased resolution to 1620p.
  • Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy - 2560×1440 resolution, "enhanced the graphics and upped resolution."
D
  • Darksiders: Warmastered Edition - 4K support, doubled texture resolutions
    Rendering improvements , 60fps "in moment to moment gameplay."
  • Dark Souls 3 - 1920x1080 resolution, “increased frame rate for gameplay on PlayStation 4 Pro,” up to 60fps.
  • Death Stranding - 4K resolution.
  • Deus Ex: Mankind Divided - 4K resolution (checkerboard), graphic improvements, HDR support.
  • Destiny 2 - "Adaptive 4K resolution", HDR support (both available December 5)
  • Diablo 3: Ultimate Evil Edition - up to 4K resolution with dynamic rendering, ambient occlusion, light bloom.
  • Dirt Rally - "graphical improvements" in VR.
  • Dishonored 2 - 2560x1440 resolution.
  • The Division - 4K resolution, improved temporal anti aliasing supersampling.
  • The Dwarves - improved frame rate.
  • Driveclub VR - graphical enhancements.
E
  • Eagle Flight - Improved draw distance and enhanced level of detail.
  • The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim Special Edition - 4K resolution.
  • The Elder Scrolls Online - 4K resolution, HDR support.
  • EVE Valkyrie - improved resolutions, particle effects and load times, new dynamic shadows.
  • The Evil Within 2 - PS4 Pro patch being worked on, no details as yet.
F
  • F1 2017 - 4K resolution, HDR support, improved environment reflections, enhanced shadow precision.
  • Fallout 4 - 1440p resolution, enhanced draw distances, frame rates and godray effects.
  • Farming Simulator 17 - 4K resolution, 1440p at 60fps, 1080p at 60fps with improved draw distance. Other additions include higher quality shadows and increased draw distance.
  • Farpoint - Increased resolution, details and textures.
  • FIFA 17 - 4K resolution, up to 60fps.
  • FIFA 18 - 4K resolution, HDR support.
  • Final Fantasy 15 - 3200x1800 resolution (checkerboarding) with improved texture filtering and shadows, 1080p locked at 30fps, HDR support.
  • Firewatch - 2560x1440 resolution, “advanced level of detail”.
  • For Honor - 2560x1400 resolution, 30fps locked, improved detail, shading, physics, shadows and lighting, 1080p supersampling.
  • Full Throttle Remastered - 4K resolution.
G
  • Ghost Recon: Wildlands - 2560x1440 resolution, improved temporal anti aliasing, lighting, shadows, HDR support.
  • Gran Turismo Sport - 4K resolution, HDR support, 60 fps at 1080p.
  • mavity Rush 2 - 3840x2160 resolution.
H
  • Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice - 60 fps, increased resolution options.
  • Helldivers - 4K checkerboard resolution, 60fps, HDR.
  • Here They Lie - 4K resolution, higher quality rendering for PSVR, better shadows, post-processing effects, dynamic flashlight shadows, ambient occlusion, HDR support.
  • Hitman - 4k resolution, 60fps, improved textures, shadows, reflective surfaces, post-processing effects, dynamic flashlight shadows, ambient occlusion, HDR.
  • Homefront: The Revolution - 4K (2560x1440 resolution upscaled), improved fps, effects, HDR.
  • Horizon: Zero Dawn - 4K resolution (3840x2160 checkerboard), improved effects, HDR support.
  • Hustle Kings - 4K, 60fps, HDR support
I
  • Infamous: First Light - 3200x1800 resolution (checkerboard), improved frame rate or resolution options, HDR support.
  • Infamous: Second Son - 3200x1800 resolution (checkerboard), improved frame rate or resolution options, HDR support.
  • Injustice 2 - 2560x1440 resolution, 60fps, improved textures, lighting better lighting, motion blur and shadowsHDR support.
K
  • Killing Floor 2 - 4K (2560x1440p resolution), increased overall environment, weapon, and character detail, ultra textures, increase dynamic shadow resolution.
  • Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 + 2.5 ReMIX - 4K, 60fps.
  • Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue - up to 4K depending on title.
  • King of Fighters 14 - 4K resolution, improved models and textures.
  • Knack - 3072x1728 resolution, improved frame rate or resolution option
  • Knack 2 - 1800p resolution, or 1080p in high frame-rate mode (near locked 60 fps).
  • Kona - "higher resolution and better frame rate."
L
  • LA Noire - 4K resolution.
  • The Last of Us Remastered - 2560×1440 resolution max, choice between 60fps at 1800p resolution or 30fps at 2160p, HDR support.
  • The Last Guardian - 3840x2160 resolution w/variable fps, 3360x1890 at steady but more variable frame rate, 1080p locked at 30fps, HDR support.
  • Lego Harry Potter Collection - 2560×1440 resolution, 60fps.
  • Let It Die - 2560×1440 resolution.
  • Life is Strange: Before the Storm - 4K resolution.
  • Little Nightmares - 2880x1620 resolution, 60fps.
M
  • Madden NFL 18 - 4K resolution, HDR support, higher frame-rate (60fps+) in 1080p.
  • Mafia 3 - 2560×1440 resolution, enhanced shadows and frame rate.
  • Mantis Burn Racing - 4K resolution, 60fps, HDR support
  • Mass Effect: Andromeda - 3200x1800 resolution (checkerboard), HDR.
  • Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor - 4K with dynamic scaling, or 1080p with enhanced graphical quality including 30fps and longer draw distances.
  • Middle-earth: Shadow of War - 4K cinematics (via downloadable add-on), optional resolution boost mode (dynamic resolution) or quality mode (dynamic resolution, increased draw distances), super-sampling in 1080p.
  • MLB The Show 17 - 4K resolution, or 2560×1440 resolution with enhanced graphics, or 1080p with enhanced frame rate, HDR.
  • Mother Russia Bleeds - 3840x2160 resolution, improved effects.
  • MotoGP 17 - 2560 X 1440 resolution, 60fps, HDR support.
N
  • NBA 2K17 - 4K resolution, 60fps, HDR support.
  • NBA 2K18 - 4K resolution, 60 fps, HDR support.
  • Neon Chrome - 4K resolution.
  • Nex Machina - 3360x1890 with 60fps (variable), 1080 with 60fps locked, HDR support
  • Nier: Automata - 1080p, 60fps, improved lighting, shadows, anti aliasing, texture filtering and motion blur.
  • Nioh - 1080p display: Movie Mode 1920×1080 resolution, high quality anti-aliasing. 30fps. Action Mode 1920x1080 resolution, 60fps. 4K display: Movie Mode 3840x2160, 30fps. Action Mode 1920x1080 resolution at 60fps.
  • No Man's Sky - 3200x1800 with variable frame rate, improved temporal anti-aliasing, or 1080p with stable 60fps. Better textures and lighting.
O
  • Outlast 2 - 2560x1440 resolution, improved shadows, detail and textures. 60fps
  • Overwatch - 60fps, 4K UI, improved texture filtering and depth of field.
  • Oxenfree - 60fps.
P
  • Paladins - 4K resolution with dynamic texture scaling.
  • Paragon - 1080p, 60fps.
  • PaRappa the Rapper Remastered - "dynamic' 4K support.
  • PES 2017 - 4K, 60fps.
  • Planetside 2 - Improved frame rate.
  • The Playroom VR - increased rendering resolution.
  • Prey - Enable screen-space reflections, higher quality shadows, improved textures and texture memory, anisotropic filter raised from 4X to 16x, improved particle effects.
  • Pyre - 4K resolution, 60 fps.
R
  • Ratchet & Clank - 3200x1800 resolution, HDR support.
  • Resident Evil 7 Biohazard - 3840x2160p (upscaled from 1656p), supersampling anti aliasing, HDR support.
  • Resogun - 4K, super sampling anti aliasing, HDR support
  • Rez Infinite - 3840 x 2160 resolution, 60fps, 1920 x 1080 resolution in VR.
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 Year Celebration - 4K at 30fps, 1080p at 60fps, or 1080p at 30fps with 'enriched visuals' (improved foliage, hair, shadows, lighting etc).
  • RIGS Mechanical Combat League - graphical enhancements.
  • Rime - improvements to shadows, temporal, level of distance, texture filter, VFX, shaders, materials, reflections.
  • Robinson: The Journey - Improved resolution, enhanced lighting effects, longer view distances, higher quality texture filtering.
  • Rocket League - 4K resolution, improved visual quality, and frame rates.
S
  • Smite - 4K with dynamic resolution, 60fps, improved textures.
  • Snake Pass - 2688x1512 at 30fps or 1080p at 60fps, HDR
  • Sniper Elite 4 - 1920x1080 resolution, 60fps, improved draw distances, lighting and shadows, high resolution textures.
  • Starblood Arena - graphical enhancements.
  • Statik
  • Steep - unlocked frame rate up to 60fps.
  • Super Stardust Ultra - 4k, 60fps, improved VR resolution.
  • The Surge - 4K resolution at 30fps or 1080p at 60fps mode, HDR.
  • Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization - 60fps.
T
  • Tethered - 4K, 60fps, improved anti aliasing and lighting.
  • Thumper - 4K, 60fps, improved supersampling and anti-aliasing in VR.
  • Titanfall 2 - 2560×1440 resolution with dynamic resolution scaling.
  • Trackmania Turbo - 2880x1620 resolution, 60fps, enhanced graphics, 120fps in VR.
  • Trove - 60fps.
U
  • Uncharted 4: A Thief's End - 2560×1440 resolution and 30fps in single player, 1080p resolution and 60fps in multiplayer, HDR support.
  • Uncharted 4: Lost Legacy - 4K resolution, HDR support, 60fps.
  • Until Dawn: Rush of Blood - improved rendering.
V
  • Verdun - 3200x1800 resolution, 60fps.
  • Victor Vran: Overkill Edition - 2880x1620 resolution, 60fps, improved anti aliasing.
  • Viking Squad - 3840x2160 resolution, 60fps, improved multisample anti-aliasing.
W
  • Warframe - Frame rate and performance improvements.
  • Watch Dogs 2 - 3200x1800 resolution (checkerboard), improved draw distances, improved super sampled anti aliasing, improved occlusion and shadows.
  • What Remains of Edith Finch - Frame rate improvements.
  • Wheels of Aurelia - 3840x2160 resolution, 60fps.
  • Wipeout Omega Collection - 4K, resolution dependent on motion blur. Motion blur disabled: 4K resolution with 4x8 Enhanced Quality Anti-Aliasing. Motion blur enabled: 3840x2160 resolution (checkerboarding). 60fps, high resolution textures, improved illumination, reflections, shadows and other graphical effects. HDR.
  • The Witcher 3 - 4K resolution.
  • The Witness - 4K at 60fps, or 2560×1440 resolution at 60 FPS, HDR.
  • World of Tanks - 3200 x 1800 resolution, HDR.
X
  • XCOM 2 - Improved anti-aliasing and visual FX.
Upcoming games (PS4)
  • Days Gone
  • Detroit: Become Human
  • God of War
  • Monster Hunter World
  • Skull and Bones
  • Spider-Man
 
Warbie said:
After owning a PS4 pro with a 1080p panel, i'd say no. It makes more sense with a 4k screen and is certainly better, but still isn't night and day.
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Most folks seem to be saying there isn't much difference on a 1080p screen so I'll probably give the idea a miss for now.

Better to save my money and upgrade when there are some genuine next-gen consoles in another 2-3 years time I reckon.
 
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