Find a physical card based on those specs direct from NVidia, they don't exist lol.
That leaves the FE as the reference card as NVidia does not sell anything else.
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Radeon RX Vega 64 vs. GeForce RTX 2080, Adrenalin 2019 Edition Driver Update Benchmark Test
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Find a physical card based on those specs direct from NVidia, they don't exist lol.
That leaves the FE as the reference card as NVidia does not sell anything else.
Totally agree with the first part of your sentence. Nvidia decided the default clock speed of their 2080 card is 1710Mhz. And it's not the vendor that's saying the Founders Edition cards are overclocked it's Nvidia themselves in several places on their website.
A very good result as the MSI 2080 TRIO is one of the best 2080's, only rivalled by Strix and Zotac AMP Extreme. So for VEGA to be close is impressive especially as the Vega 64 is £400 and those 2080's are £750-£900! Great result for AMD to be so close at half the price!
Vega 7 will probably beat the 2080 and still cost less!
You are wrong. Nvidia says you are wrong. The AIB cards starting at 1710Mhz says you are wrong.
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They have decided what the base clock speed of the chips is and it's 1710mhz. As the FE is an overclocked chip it's 1800 mhz. Plenty of cards out there with the base speeds. FE cards are factory overclocked end of story.
The topic of the video itself is ridiculous, anyways. It compares graphics cards of different generations. With Vega having only 72% of the performance of RTX 2080, and AMD lacking any new graphics development to fullfil the empty slot.
I know how painful topic the picture quality is to all nvidia people, but it is a reality and a fact. Can't escape from it.
They are not reference cards if they are made and sold by AIB partners lol.
What I find comical about all this is my RTX Titans are also FE cards and have more overclocking headroom than most Pascal cards, are they factory overclocked too lol.
The bottom line is the guy in the OP did an absolutely awful unprofessional review which made any results very subjective. The Tragedy of this is the Vega64 is a very good card and the message has been lost due to people like you arguing points of order and failing to admit the guy messed up the review.
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Yeah am very impressed with VEGA at this moment.
LOL your post is equally ridiculous. People always compare new cards to the last generation of cards. What else do you compare them to? How would you measure improvement?
PQ was a problem about 10 years ago. Now it's only something for Fanboys to fight about. Having different defaults doesn't make one better than the other. For anyone who worries about that sort of thing, both AMD and NVidia can be made to look exactly alike with some calibration.
I don't understand why you all get so riled up about random no name videos with obviously dodgy testing methodology. Surely it would be better to look, scratch your chin and move on to something else.
If people want to take it as given, so what, let them.
If people want to take it as given, so what, let them.
lol, but the Vega 64 already lost even to GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti. Why would you compare even a faster than GTX 1080 Ti with a Vega 64?
It is like showing a knife to an already dead.
Compare RTX 2080 to GTX 1080 Ti. Or to RTX 2080 Ti.... or whatever else.
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On release the GTX 1080 won, now VEGA 64 wins in almost all games released. Its only the few Nvidia well optimised that it runs 10fps slower.
And like pointed out its nice to see how well GPU progress over time, its also nice to see how does VEGA 64 perform in say BF5 well you looking to also buy a 2080 for example.
All you doing is comparing to a potential upgrade.
This isn't something new!! LOL its been happening for ever.
LOL no. Nvidia don't sell Reference spec cards. AIB Cards start at the reference specs, they always have done.
Every hardware review site and Nvidia say the founder editions 2080 cards are overclocked and you still think you are right? I'll help, the answer is no, you are not correct.
You are the one making the big deal, The review is lightly overclocked Vega 64 card Vs a lightly overclocked 2080 card. That's it. He lists the specs used, the settings used for each game and shows both cards side by side with each game showing the clock speeds, frame times, CPU use etc. Not sure why consider his review so unprofessional. All the information you need is there.
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Vega 7 is where I am at, NV tax and raytracing BS I am not interested in, the Vega 64 does very well against the 2080 at half the price but not half the performance, far from it. AMD are improving there drivers
all the time, and when Vega 7 hits I would expect a new driver from AMD for release.
I hope they will not follow Nvidia and gimp the original Vega card with the release driver as to make Vega 7 look super fast like NV did on release driver for 2080. although they gave the performance back to the 1080ti cards in a later driver, you can't say NV didn't test the release driver with the 1080ti at launch of the 2080. they new the reviews would test side by side the old with the new on release. they wanted the 2080 to shine!
Vega 7 for me all day long.
AIB partners do not sell reference cards.
Any 2080 from say Asus is nothing like any 2080 from say EVGA.
The only reference card out there is the FE one as it is the only one NVidia sell themselves.
As to overclocked concerning NVidia FE cards go and checkout all the FE TU102 cards, according to NVidia own slides the slowest one is overclocked and the fastest one is not lol.
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I posted some very good videos on page 7 and we still banging on about Overclocked vs None-Overclocked. The fact here is neither of the two GPUs in the first video was "MASSIVELY OC" They had a little tweak!
I have since added more videos into page 7 showing the VEGA vs 2080 performance and its ignored.
I have since added more videos into page 7 showing the VEGA vs 2080 performance and its ignored.
I can show you benchmarks all day long that still put the 1080 ahead of Vega 64, even the 2060 is ahead here over a suite of games.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_RTX_2060_Gaming_Z/32.html
Now I know you can find YouTube vids that would suggest vega has an advantage and that’s fine too and I even accept that sometimes it does. But and a big but if we’re both being honest performance is ‘a wash’ and it’s largly dependant on game type with some devs favouring one vendor.
Roll on Vega ‘2’!
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That is exactly what I saying. It really does depend on the engine and games. Assassins creed for example puts the 1080 least 10fps ahead, you then have Battlefield that favours AMD because the close work AMD has done on that engine over the years.
But from what I have seen over the past half year I seen the VEGA 64 pushing ahead in a lot of Youtube benchmark videos I seen.
Well my own dabble with vega has been short lived. My 56 is on eBay and I’ve bought into Turing. I know Turing isn’t a great step up but a step up it is.
I have however in a significant system upgrade also bought a 2700x and X470 board so AMD will still be very much alive in my rig.
