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JunglistE said:
And how do you suggest we do that? Just want to know so I can update my hive mind.
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Are you a member of the "black community" or just someone who happens to be black? I am not referring to individual black people but those who identify themselves as being part of a broader racial community.

As for the how, I could provide a list of suggestions, but far be it for me to engage in neo colonialism. I am sure those "black community" folk can sort it out, they're doing a great job so far.
 
Schlong&Stable said:
Are you a member of the "black community" or just someone who happens to be black? I am not referring to individual black people but those who identify themselves as being part of a broader racial community.
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You out of breath from all these contortions?

What a load of nonsense.
 
Schlong&Stable said:
What a well reasoned and intelligent response. Don't spend all your brain cells on one post though.
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it hardly seems worth spending much analysis on a post that seems to say that groups of black people are trouble, but they're ok when they're on their own.

What's the distinction you're trying to draw?

it's nonsense.
 
Schlong&Stable said:
Are you a member of the "black community" or just someone who happens to be black? I am not referring to individual black people but those who identify themselves as being part of a broader racial community.

As for the how, I could provide a list of suggestions, but far be it for me to engage in neo colonialism. I am sure those "black community" folk can sort it out, they're doing a great job so far.
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I'm black. In the eyes of some that's enough to be part of black community. My family is black, some of my friends are black. It doesn't really change anything though does it? Someone will still see me as a black man and that's their mind made up then and there.
 
dcsarge said:
You never mentioned anything about children being role models. I agree about it starting somewhere and that should be with the parents, regardless of colour, religion or income.
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No, but I mentioned being a role model to children.
 
JunglistE said:
You call it pathetic, fine, but that's how i feel GD thinks black people act sometimes. We are all one, not individuals. When I feel like i'm being treated as one of many and not many of one, then I'll stop saying hive mind. (I am not accusing you of saying I have a hive mind, if that's what you think I feel, then i apologise)

The poster who said to get our house in order. How do i do that? If my family and friends aren't part of the problem, how do i get my house in order? No one i know has ever stole from or hurt anyone so how am i supposed to fix gangs in London? I don't identify as part of a black community. I will always be part of that regardless even if I wanted in or out. It's the first thing people will see about me.

How on earth is me trying to be a good person a load of crap? I'm good to my family and my friends. If I don't know someone, I treat them with the same respect I would like to be treated. But I refuse to be grouped with scummy people just because they happen to share my skin colour - they are most certainly not part of my house.
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It's not about grouping people because they share skin colour, both you and I know that means diddly. Im as white as they come and you could have the darkest skin ever and we've probably got far more in common than you and any if those scumbags we're talking about.
What does matter though is those who can influence them and don't. You always see some feckless mother crying after her son has just been stabbed 'he was such a good boy, he never hurt nobody' and then it turns out it was a gang feud and he'd stabbed someone else the week before. Theyre the ones that need to get their houses in order.
Saying that though it never stops you or I trying to help others. I think it's important if you can positively influence someone that you do. Only by people doing that can the problems that pervade the black communities throughout the UK be solved. Hopefully then we'll see this tarring stop.
 
JunglistE said:
Assuming that my friends, family and acquaintances have any need to change? Why would they need to change?
That's the problem. Telling me that because I'm black I have to change people who I've never spoken to. All I can do is live my life as a good person and surrounding myself with good people. No one I know has ever been in any trouble nor would I associate myself with people who are into doing things which I think are negative.
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Absolutely this. I said it in the Gillette thread about addressing a group and telling it that it needed to police its members or up its game. Exact same principle. Nobody should have to live with an imposed social identity on an arbitrary characteristic.
 
Schlong&Stable said:
Are you a member of the "black community" or just someone who happens to be black? I am not referring to individual black people but those who identify themselves as being part of a broader racial community.
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Which "Black community"? Honestly, the less there is a notion of skin-defined communities the better as far as I'm concerned. If you said "African American" community, then there would be some level of truth to it for example. If you said "Jamaican" community, there'd be more. But "Black community"? Why do I hear that and hardly ever "White community"? You don't hear it from White people generally because people only use such terms to describe what they perceive as "out-groups". An out-group should never be defined by skin-colour. By things that are a matter of choice, sometimes. But never things that are not.
 
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