Ships under attack in the middle east

RoboCod · 14 Jun 2019 at 06:30

NVP said:
Wow! I've never seen so many pixels!!

Must be fake. :rolleyes:

Buddy · 14 Jun 2019 at 06:59

dowie said:
Why does someone need to pay ISIS?

Since when do ISIS have any navy resources or know anything about naval mines?

I was quoting someone. The purpose of reply was to correct the assumption that the Shia would even remotely consider working with ISIS. However, on a broader level. Who do you think supports ISIS? I mean weapons, funds, supplies.

CaptainRAVE · 14 Jun 2019 at 07:21

All its going to take is one of these mines to accidentally hit a US warship and all hell will break loose.

Malevolence · 14 Jun 2019 at 07:36

Freakbro · 14 Jun 2019 at 07:50

CaptainRAVE said:
All its going to take is one of these mines to accidentally hit a US warship and all hell will break loose.

It's not that sort of mine, if these are limpet mines then the assumption is they were intentionally placed on the hull.

CaptainRAVE · 14 Jun 2019 at 07:58

Freakbro said:
It's not that sort of mine, if these are limpet mines then the assumption is they were intentionally placed on the hull.

Yikes.

plasmahal · 14 Jun 2019 at 09:13

mmj_uk said:
Iran are under heavy sanctions and oil prices have now shot up, the few countries who are still buying from them will have to pay a lot more. Iran's economy could collapse and the fall out could see a government overthrow so I'd say they have a rather big incentive to drive up oil prices and protect their economy. The thing is if they have done it they'll have just paid some ISIS frogmen so it'll be impossible to prove either way, as it's going to be impossible to prove people will just blame either Iran or Israel depending on their own bias.

Finally, something sensible said.

Sankari · 14 Jun 2019 at 09:19

mmj_uk said:
they'll have just paid some ISIS frogmen

I need to stop taking a mouthful of coffee before reading your posts.

NVP · 14 Jun 2019 at 09:27

RoboCod said:
Must be fake.

Oh, do you think? Hmm...

mmj_uk said:
ISIS frogmen

Yaayuh! · 14 Jun 2019 at 09:33

opstrat said:
what about environmental fallout from this? tankers now spilling its guts.

Indeed, the ocean could now be full of more crap (naphtha and methanol) to clean up. Though unsure on what sort of leakage if any has occurred.

plasmahal · 14 Jun 2019 at 09:44

Rossi~ said:
Indeed, the ocean could now be full of more crap (naphtha and methanol) to clean up. Though unsure on what sort of leakage if any has occurred.

It was greenpeace, they've done it before....

PlacidCasual · 14 Jun 2019 at 10:27

Scary stuff. That video released by the US was highly suggestive. If you tell me that was some commandos removing a mine from the hull of ship I can well believe it. If you tell me only a state actor has the skills and equipment to do that I also find that very plausible.

Squeaky bum time in Tehran I bet.

englishpremier · 14 Jun 2019 at 11:45

plasmahal said:
It was greenpeace, they've done it before....

They are defiantly on my list of terrorist organisations. They get involved in piracy and all sorts, then cry to the press when they get arrested.

FTM · 14 Jun 2019 at 11:49

why do the US have footage...how come they had something in the area at the exact moment of the incident to take video footage

of all the bits of the sea in the area they had something overhead at the exact right time???

NVP · 14 Jun 2019 at 11:50

Didn't they say they received the distress calls or whatever? That's probably why.

PlacidCasual · 14 Jun 2019 at 12:00

FTM said:
why do the US have footage...how come they had something in the area at the exact moment of the incident to take video footage

of all the bits of the sea in the area they had something overhead at the exact right time???

They maintain many assets in the region. One assumes that the drone was dispatched after the bombing occurred and that the limpet mine removal was after the bombing occurred. It doesn't seem unreasonable that the US would dispatch a drone, see the boat ad then investigate.

Hades · 14 Jun 2019 at 12:05

Did the Iranians say that they had removed a mine? If it is indeed a mine, and they were not involved in planting it, then they would have announced that they found one. But if they haven't said anything about finding a mine then it does look suspiciously like they wanted to remove it before it could be investigated for evidence of its origin.

StriderX · 14 Jun 2019 at 12:06

plasmahal said:
Finally, something sensible said.

Not sensible at all, Iran is currently bartering (for food and other supplies) not selling in a traditional sense because it can't. Why the **** would they hire their religious enemy that they've been fighting in Syria exactly? load of *****.

Rroff said:
From what I can make out seems the latest claims are that disguised mines with timers were attached to the vessels while in port.

Last port of call was Xiuyu (China) for the Courageous and the Altair was in Ruwais (Qatar), so one of them might be relevant (not entirely sure how Iranian agents would be able to walk in and out of a Qatari port with a bloody mine...), a tad inconsistent though.

Sankari · 14 Jun 2019 at 12:21

FTM said:
why do the US have footage...how come they had something in the area at the exact moment of the incident to take video footage

of all the bits of the sea in the area they had something overhead at the exact right time???

The USA has eyes all over the Middle East.

EvilSooty · 14 Jun 2019 at 12:21

The Iranians attacked a Japanese-owned ship during a rare visit by the Japanese PM? And turns out the other ship was full of Russian sailors. Strange targets (and timing) for the Iranians to attack when there were plenty of ships from hostile nations they could have hit.

With the US itching for a war with Iran and with their history of using false flags/lies to justify war I'm going to assume it was a FF until shown otherwise.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/06/the-gulf-of-credibility/