Donald Trump
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Soldato
OMG you really are on the Kool Aid. Did you get some of that from his ghost written book? You really are a complete sucker for this man aren't you. He could turn up on your doorstep and you'd buy every knife in his suitcase.
1. Do some research. That is not how it went down at all. The Washington Post did a story a couple of years back that exposed how the family devalued their fathers estate making it appear far less valuable than it was. It was a complete scam. They ripped of tenants and they ripped off the tax payer.
2. Ok well Trump airlines, Trump Beverages, Trump The Game, Trump Magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, Trump Travel, Trump Comms, Trump Tower Tampa, Oh and Trump University were he defrauded the students and had to pay $millions. Trump Vodka, etc etc.
3. Yeah he did indeed. He also partied with a known sex trafficker and has been accused by how many women? 21 is it? And that was just the adults.
4. Yes he did. His second wife accused him of rape as well.
5. He owned it on the way up didn't he? It was all him and not Obama so you get to own it on the way down as well. Thats the way it works.
6. Yes he did. He even had a picture of himself purchased at auction and bid it up to a higher price and used the money from the charity to pay for it. He also bought a helmet of a former pro football payer Tim Tebow with charity money. He also used more than 250k to settle lawsuits involving his businesses. Any way you want to spin tha he stole from charity. If it was anyone else, if there was a story in the news of someone in charge of a charity and they stole money for those purposes we'd all be screaming for them to be sent to jail because stealing from a charity is as scummy as it gets. And yes he also used it for his own campaign and that is how he got caught for the lot. Yeah he really is a genius isn't he
The judge in the case placed extreme conditions on him ever being involved with a charity again. Imagine that, a POTUS having conditions placed on him by a court because he can't be trusted with a charity.
Soldato
At times he is treated unfairly and the media are just waiting to jump on every word. However this is due to the fact that he has consistently said questionable things from day one. He has lied thousands of times and that isn't the media twisting his words. It's him saying it on live television.
He took a bold approach with Russia and North Korea, I thought fair enough, maybe a different approach is a good thing. Turns out he got played because although he's unpredictable and no doubt scary to some, he is also incompetent and too quick to ignore experienced staff.
His handling of that Eddie Gallagher situation undermined many high ranking naval decisions and was done to score points with his base who are all Team America.
I accept he's got a huge following but can't get beyond the fact that he has no redeeming qualities as a human being. No empathy. He's arrogant, narcissistic, uncompromising, stubborn, disinterested and unprofessional.
The economy did great in his term and its unfair to credit it all to Obama regardless of its trajectory. His desire to bring manufacturing back to America is admirable and I wish the UK did similar but people thinking that Donald Trump is worthy of being the POTUS depresses me.
Presidents have no doubt always done corrupt and messed up stuff but since this one likes to thrust it in our faces I feel he's done some serious damage to the way America is seen by the rest of the world.
Rich, powerful, successful, controversial and head strong no doubt. But the fact that he is a complete **** just negates any decent qualities he may have.
Good for business but not for diplomacy.
He took a bold approach with Russia and North Korea, I thought fair enough, maybe a different approach is a good thing. Turns out he got played because although he's unpredictable and no doubt scary to some, he is also incompetent and too quick to ignore experienced staff.
His handling of that Eddie Gallagher situation undermined many high ranking naval decisions and was done to score points with his base who are all Team America.
I accept he's got a huge following but can't get beyond the fact that he has no redeeming qualities as a human being. No empathy. He's arrogant, narcissistic, uncompromising, stubborn, disinterested and unprofessional.
The economy did great in his term and its unfair to credit it all to Obama regardless of its trajectory. His desire to bring manufacturing back to America is admirable and I wish the UK did similar but people thinking that Donald Trump is worthy of being the POTUS depresses me.
Presidents have no doubt always done corrupt and messed up stuff but since this one likes to thrust it in our faces I feel he's done some serious damage to the way America is seen by the rest of the world.
Rich, powerful, successful, controversial and head strong no doubt. But the fact that he is a complete **** just negates any decent qualities he may have.
Good for business but not for diplomacy.
Soldato
iPhone is made in china
I feel nothing as it does not affect me. But tell me how does it affect you?
Soldato
Just imagine what it would be if he hadn't downplayed the whole thing and called it a hoax, etc
It's likely 100-200k people wouldn't be dying if he'd taken it seriously from the start.
Just imagine if the Chinese told everyone months ago.
Everyone would be ok.
Soldato
Soldato
But don't you see, it's ONLY likely to be 100-200k dead, if it wasnt for Trump and his big big brain there would be millions dead.The mans a genius.
Are you a yank or?
Soldato
iPhone is made in china
I feel nothing as it does not affect me. But tell me how does it affect you?
Apple is based in California so surely putting money into the US economy is better than giving it directly to a China based company.
I only really say because you previously said how much your family is benefiting from Trump's America and I thought a home grown company like Apple would suit you better than xiaomi.
Soldato
Like most people in the world.
I would not touch a apple product ever.
Now you answer me. How does the US affect you in all this?
Soldato
The US has the world's largest economy which naturally has an impact globally. There is also a potential future influence over the import of American food products that will may change the British market and allow crap like chlorinated chicken to be on our shelves. America also dictate a lot of military conflicts we are involved in so I would prefer the POTUS to be someone I can at least respect a little bit.
Soldato
One last time.
Hows does it affect YOU...
And since you can't\won't answer it. Shouldn't you put your own country in order before telling other people what THEY should do?
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Oh, you mean like back in December/the start of january?
Or if China's warning wasn't enough, how about the fact that multiple NATO allies were starting to see what was going on and taking action whilst also issuing warnings whilst Trump was still saying it's all a hoax, how about the example of China's nearest neighbours who were all taking precautions before Trump had even admitted that there was such a thing?
Maybe if Trump hadn't gutted the US's ability to be at least a little proactive in regards to these things it would have helped? (you know the people that specifically monitored such threats and planned for them with the White House)
I remember talking about how I was preparing for it in what little ways I could back at the end of Feb (IIRC I even posted in the original covid thread on here) - if people with no medical experience, no thousands of top class professionals literally a phone call away, and no team of security/specialist advisors was able to see on the daily news how it was spreading it doesn't say much about Trump that he couldn't see it when his national security advisors should have been screaming at him about the risks to the US (and if they weren't, they all deserve to be fired).
But then this is the President who appears to have an attention span that's worse than my 6 year old niece when she's been at the sugar and fudge, and the same president who made a point of getting rid of everyone who had any experience, or told him things he didn't want to hear (and nearly left key roles in regards to the US's nuclear weapons safety unfilled because no one in his team bothered to learn the basics of the job, or attend briefings meant to prepare them before they took over)..
Soldato
I take no notice of your posts since you never answer me back(3 times now).
When you do I may consider otherwise.
Soldato
I'm in the military.
By nature of that I do put my own country before other countries.
But also I care how much of a joke the POTUS is. Regardless of his direct impact on me. He is an utterly ridiculous person.
Also could you tell us how he affects you personally. You have family in Florida who I assume benefited from some of his policies. I guess they had pension increases before the tumbling financial markets.
Go on. Enlighten us. Our country seems to have had an impact on you, so maybe yours has impacted ours.
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Soldato
I’m still waiting on a response to the below
Seems like you ignore post too
I have lots of friends and family in the US ,spent a lot of time on the West Coast when I worked for Microsoft, 99% of them are in despair of Trump and are embarrassed that he is President. I’m sure that is an influence on me as I respect their opinion much more than some random guy on an forum. Hopefully this is justification enough for you, if any were actually needed, for me to have an interest what is happening in the USA. If not then obviously I won't post anymore on the subject as deuse seems to have an issue with it.
Seems like you ignore post too
I have lots of friends and family in the US ,spent a lot of time on the West Coast when I worked for Microsoft, 99% of them are in despair of Trump and are embarrassed that he is President. I’m sure that is an influence on me as I respect their opinion much more than some random guy on an forum. Hopefully this is justification enough for you, if any were actually needed, for me to have an interest what is happening in the USA. If not then obviously I won't post anymore on the subject as deuse seems to have an issue with it.
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If you're not going to bother to even get the basics right, why should anyone believe the rest of what you say?
More "fake" news to counter your claim with a little humour
. The Virus was first reported on xmas Dec 25 2019 and one of Trump's biggest inaccuracies was if only the "Chinese" had not withheld it 3 months ago. That would take it back September which is false. If you even bother to watch fact check video #4060 from @Colonel_Klinck you would know this but i guess you love staying ignorant and parroting Trump's lies to protect this buffon. Look at the US intelligence reports and eventually warnings from WHO they all went unheeded. Which mirrors Trump's actions or rather inactions because for 2 months after Dec he downplayed the seriousness of the situation and even went as far to say it was just 1 person and then we had that comedy train where the numbers went up and he continued to downplay and "failed badly" to reassure anyone with a brain.Here is that report again if you want to educate yourself with facts.
You have already made it clear why he has your undying support and you are incapable of criticizing his many awful actions.
Caporegime
I bought my house under May, started my savings to plan for a 3 bed detached house as my next house.
Guess that means May needs my support?
Nope.
Guess that means May needs my support?
Nope.
Soldato
So you won't touch a product from a company who doesn't sell your data to anyone but I'm guessing you have an Android phone and Google will and does sell your data to everyone. Yes Apple use labour in China that is badly paid and most likely still work in terrible conditions. So do lots of other tech manufactures. I wish they didn't.
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