No cards anywhere?... (Of any kind)

[Dontrocktheboat]

Am I missing something here?

Are you seriously telling me that pc gaming is basically impossible for any new commers now and for the foreseeable future?

I've been in this game since 1985 and have never seen the industry so ******.

As someone said, you can get an xbox and playstation 5 and enjoy gaming for 450£.

oh wait they are not available too.

 

[Vogelbekdier]

It was always a bad idea, esp when the region's main powers are not always friendly to the West, either

But as with everything else, money talks. China is cheap as chips to assemble things. Not quite so easy to explain how SK and Taiwan became manufacturing powerhouses... although proximity to China probably helped!

China might be cheap as chips but their specialization is rather low and the leading manufacturers countries in the world are not exactly on political good terms with China either.

 

[Odirse]

Welcome to 2021... you can still buy a 710.

 

[philo-sofa]

Sign up to partalert, you'll find a GPU eventually.

 

[random_matt]

Pointless release, 4070/80 will be about in normal supply before this crap ends.

 

[Game]

seen some 2060's today but a lot of money

 

[Game]

Sign up to partalert, you'll find a GPU eventually.

seen a few drop at a local shop and to there credit all where sold at msrp

 

[kristmace]

Sign up to partalert, you'll find a GPU eventually.

I'll second this. There are stocks coming in daily of 3000 series cards. They're going quickly but it's not impossible.

What price you pay is another question and up to you.

 

[turbot1984]

Cards are fairly easy to pick up in Hong Kong shops, so long as you can prove no pro-democracy leanings. If not they give you a warehouse address on the mainland, and details of where to buy your one-way ticket.

 

[Akagi]

What I did is sold my old GPU's on eBay for the going (inflated) rate, which then gave me enough money to buy a new one for the going (also inflated) rate.

It kinda balanced out in the end... But if you don't have a previous card to sell I imagine its pretty dire...

 

[Dirk Diggler]

In Zimbabwe, it started with the price of bread - in the UK, it's GPUs.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

What I did is

Stop right there you trader.

 

[69Dude]

Am I missing something here?

Nope, just wait until you see what happens to the prices for day to day items when the imprisonment ends.
The inflationary elastic band of money printing being realised.

 

[qqmoo]

3060 is still quite possible to get, or rx 5500xt for 290 which was on sale the other day.

the crazy price is not just on GPU, but also with a lot other "hot" products in the market.

 

[ScottiB]

Let's not forget this issue is bigger then just the GPU gaming market. I know we all like to feel sorry for ourselves not being able to game on max FPS but this is a worldwide problem in all markets that require chips and wafers. There are car manufacturers bringing down their projected profit and revenue forecasts by billions because they can build the cars but they can't get the chips required! We are talking about luxurious $60k+ cars sitting in parking lot's waiting for chips to be delivered to customers.

Will things improve? No they won't you can't just simply increase production without the production facilities and capacity. If multi billion dollar companies are forecasting a lasting shortage that's only going to get worse they are probably right.

nail head well and truly struck here...drastic increases in silicon demand in recent years...even your bloody toaster is getting smart...has pushed silicon fabrication facilities to their limit. You can't just throw up another silicon fab, it's usually a multi-year process, and quite simply, they aren't being built fast enough to cope with demand.
The fact that both major console manufacturers, most major phone manufacturers, both major CPU manufacturers and both major graphics manufacturers all decided to launch new models over a five month period just brought this issue to the forefront

 

[pieman109]

So the whole situation is "Fubared" then
While I'm trying to inject a bit of humour here, the "silicon" market overall is totally....well, as above really

 

[chaparral]

Why does this very high silicon demand not seem to effect things like apple ipads, macbooks, samsung galaxy mobiles phones and lots of other stuff ?

 

[JediFragger]

apple ipads, macbooks, samsung galaxy mobiles phones and lots of other stuff ?

Apple secure their supply waaaaaay in advance, and probably get special treatment from TSMC being such a good customer. And Samsung have their own fabs for production

 

[chaparral]

And Samsung have their own fabs for production

These wouldn't be the same fabs that were meant to of been making nvidia GPU chips by any chance

 

[kristmace]

Why does this very high silicon demand not seem to effect things like apple ipads, macbooks, samsung galaxy mobiles phones and lots of other stuff ?

I'm no expert but I imagine Samsung and Apple will be impacted the least by this as they're the biggest customers for wafers and they're buying capacity in huge quantities at a discounted and set price. This allows things like iPads to remain the same price.

I can see a price hike when the next generation of Apple stuff comes out to reflect the current market though.