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Don't buy a gaming PC pre-build from Dell'

NickTheBiz said:
Agree with all of that. But is it worth buying their pre-built for a 3060Ti (to put in a custom build of my own)? It's still just a standard GPU card right? Not proprietary in any way? And frankly I think I have no other way of replacing my dying 1070 any time soon.
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Honestly I don't think a 3060Ti is worth it at all. It's the "mining card of choice" after the 3080 and as such it's really hard to get hold of and probably more inflated than other chipsets.
If you want my honest, selfish opinion you should buy something like this https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...yzen-5600x-amd-radeon-graphics-fs-18j-og.html
the key point being that AMD gave us a decent chunk of MBA cards for our SI business and the cost price on these is very competitive. Once they run out this system will have to go up in price by at least £200-300 since that's how much the cards have increased in price since.
 
ScottiB said:
Honestly I don't think a 3060Ti is worth it at all. It's the "mining card of choice" after the 3080 and as such it's really hard to get hold of and probably more inflated than other chipsets.
If you want my honest, selfish opinion you should buy something like this https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...yzen-5600x-amd-radeon-graphics-fs-18j-og.html
the key point being that AMD gave us a decent chunk of MBA cards for our SI business and the cost price on these is very competitive. Once they run out this system will have to go up in price by at least £200-300 since that's how much the cards have increased in price since.
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Stripping out Windoze (£3 on Ebay, prob not legit but who cares!) and the slow-ass 500GB old-fashioned drive and the Bulldog rubbish makes this £1329 which isn't too awful in the current climate! Verrrrry nice margin if you got the AMD cards at special price too ;)

Tbf SI is cut-throat atm and so so many good deals around it's silly.
 
Dell have been this way forever, this is nothing new. Had to butcher them in the past just to change PSU and get a third party PSU connector just to plug it into the board.
 
JediFragger said:
Stripping out Windoze (£3 on Ebay, prob not legit but who cares!) and the slow-ass 500GB old-fashioned drive and the Bulldog rubbish makes this £1329 which isn't too awful in the current climate! Verrrrry nice margin if you got the AMD cards at special price too ;)
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I wouldn't say "special" the price was "normal", not even good enough to hit MSRP, but still a lot better than the pricing just a month or so later.
 
ScottiB said:
I wouldn't say "special" the price was "normal", not even good enough to hit MSRP, but still a lot better than the pricing just a month or so later.
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Yeah it's absolutely bonkers now, 6700XT's pushing £900 and still going OOS quickly...

I'm hoping the AMD Store opens up at some point so I can try and grab a 6900XT upgrade at RRP.
 
ScottiB said:
Honestly I don't think a 3060Ti is worth it at all. It's the "mining card of choice" after the 3080 and as such it's really hard to get hold of and probably more inflated than other chipsets.
If you want my honest, selfish opinion you should buy something like this https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...yzen-5600x-amd-radeon-graphics-fs-18j-og.html
the key point being that AMD gave us a decent chunk of MBA cards for our SI business and the cost price on these is very competitive. Once they run out this system will have to go up in price by at least £200-300 since that's how much the cards have increased in price since.
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problem is the dell system hes talking about is £400 cheaper. i7 10700 and a 3060ti and a 1tb nvme drive regardless of people slating dell at £1000 thats a lot of performance for the money. especially in the times of scalping at the moment. as long as it lasts 3 years minimum you done well. especially when you think of what a 3060ti alone is going for if...you can get one.
 
humbug said:
Just about everything in them is proprietary, they probably do this deliberately so that if the motherboard or whatever breaks outside of warranty you have to buy it from Dell at probably very inflated prices for something that's of very average quality, or just plain bad if you're used to building your own.

Once its out of warranty, or you want to upgrade some of the components there is little or nothing you can do with it, it just becomes landfill.

They had to have spent time and money on developing a system like this so that its components are incompatible with industry standards, its a really cynical way of trapping you into their ECO system to squeeze more money from you if it goes wrong out of warranty and making the components on their own useless.

Don't buy their junk, its bad for the environment, your pocket and your sanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DMg6hUudHE

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Old news though anyone with a smidgeon of IT knowledge in a working environment knows this its same with HP, Lenovo etc and has been for decades.

This guy must be really really bored to do a video on a very well known subject. It should be obvious who to go to for a pre-built with industry standard components. Its not a scam either.
 
Armageus said:
Dell/HP/Others are doing this as they are being required to by Law - not because of the people ordering PCs.


Dell are an OEM/SI so have to comply regardless of whether it's a gaming PC or office PC.

It states why in the gamersnexus link above:


The standard is quite detailed:
https://energycodeace.com/site/cust...rstelevisionssignagedisplaysandconsumera5.htm
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What's has that got to do with proprietary motherboard mounts and heat sink mounts, inadequate CPU coolers and fans and abysmal air flow in poorly designed case. These machines are built as disposable.

Their workstation machines all have robust PSUs and cooling in all aspects, memory, vrms, airflow is plentiful and are over engineered if anything. They are still proprietary.

Their competitors built a much better machine in this area (gaming machines). But as Dell are the only ones with supply you have to go to them.

TBH you could make these G5 even cheaper. The chassis is over complicated. So it's costing them more to make than it needs to. It's even bad design from that pov.
 
varkanoid said:
Old news though anyone with an smidgeon of IT knowledge in a working environment knows this its same with HP, Lenovo etc and has been for decades.

This guy must be really really bored to do a video on a very well known subject. It should be obvious who to go to for a pre-built with industry standard components. Its not a scam either.
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think logically. many people will be looking to prebuilt systems because they cant get gpus. so big corps will be doing deals. so trending topic. thats why we talking about it in the first place :D
 
~>Dg<~ said:
think logically. many people will be looking to prebuilt systems because they cant get gpus. so big corps will be doing deals. so trending topic. thats why we talking about it in the first place :D
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like I said, really really bored. These are the systems that the black shirts (although they do sell other standard ones) so are they as bad as Dell ? They've been selling them for years and years. It just trying to sensationalise something as though its new, gasp, gosh its terrible isnt it but its been like it for years.
 
Boy how times have changed. Back in the 90's owning a Dell was considered desirable these days they are churning out dog **** PC's made with parts from the lowest bidder. Still their laptops and monitors are pretty good so it's not all bad.
 
varkanoid said:
Old news though anyone with a smidgeon of IT knowledge in a working environment knows this its same with HP, Lenovo etc and has been for decades.

This guy must be really really bored to do a video on a very well known subject. It should be obvious who to go to for a pre-built with industry standard components. Its not a scam either.
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Am I missing something? What's with the 3 or 4 posts disliking Gamers Nexus lately... Has he rubbed some people the wrong way or what?
 
V F said:
Am I missing something? What's with the 3 or 4 posts disliking Gamers Nexus lately... Has he rubbed some people the wrong way or what?
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nope didnt even know who he was never heard of him. Just thought the subject of the video was weak and reporting something that is not new and in my opinion rather well known in IT circles. Whether it warrants a video as the subject is catching people out is debatable. Maybe if he included stats showing number of Dell computers being bought with evidence of people being "scammed" as they didnt know the components were proprietary would make it more credible but I've said enough on the subject.
 
kind of like the wireless wifi card whitelisting in laptops, scummy behaviour.

I went to buy a new wifi card for my laptop a couple of weeks ago, kept reading in ebay ad's only working on X and Y spec, did some research and found out about the bios whitelisting, luckily my existing wifi isnt complete junk (it is AC dual band), but some people are stuck on single band or non AC. I was looking mainly so I could get WPA3 support, as intel been scummy have decided to only implement WPA3 support on their latest models.
 
Not sure why they've started doing this again, I had a Dell XPS 8300 for years and it used entirely standard parts. It was a great machine, got it for a complete bargain as it was a Dell Outlet machine, and it was utterly solid and lasted for ages.
 
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