Greta Thunberg

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We have a global disaster hitting, but unlike other times we have weak leaders all over the world and an upcoming generation of weakings as the soldiers. We're ******.

Our mistake is that we allow politics to exist at all. Politics is about doing the things in a wrong way.
If we get rid of the politics, things might actually begin to improve.


"The 3.5 trillion tonnes of Greenland's ice sheet that has melted over the past decade has raised global sea levels by one centimetre and is heightening worldwide flood risks, new research showed on Monday.

The ice sheet atop the world's largest island contains enough frozen water to lift oceans some six metres (20 feet) globally, and extreme melting events there have been increasing in frequency for at least 40 years.

Although it is one of the most studied places on Earth by climatologists, Monday's research is the first to use satellite data to detect Greenland ice sheet runoff.

Writing in the journal Nature Communications, researchers said that Greenland's meltwater runoff had risen by 21 percent over the past four decades.

More strikingly, the data provided by the European Space Agency showed that the ice sheet had lost 3.5 trillion tonnes of ice since 2011, producing enough water to raise oceans globally and put coastal communities at higher risk of flood events."

Extreme Greenland ice melt raised global flood risk: study (msn.com)
 
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Our mistake is that we allow politics to exist at all. Politics is about doing the things in a wrong way.
If we get rid of the politics, things might actually begin to improve.


"The 3.5 trillion tonnes of Greenland's ice sheet that has melted over the past decade has raised global sea levels by one centimetre and is heightening worldwide flood risks, new research showed on Monday.

The ice sheet atop the world's largest island contains enough frozen water to lift oceans some six metres (20 feet) globally, and extreme melting events there have been increasing in frequency for at least 40 years.

Although it is one of the most studied places on Earth by climatologists, Monday's research is the first to use satellite data to detect Greenland ice sheet runoff.

Writing in the journal Nature Communications, researchers said that Greenland's meltwater runoff had risen by 21 percent over the past four decades.

More strikingly, the data provided by the European Space Agency showed that the ice sheet had lost 3.5 trillion tonnes of ice since 2011, producing enough water to raise oceans globally and put coastal communities at higher risk of flood events."

Extreme Greenland ice melt raised global flood risk: study (msn.com)

I live on a top floor flat so I'd love my balcony to become a Dock.
 
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Reading a BBC news article did make me laugh. China has the same co2 carbon footprint as the US, EU and India combined.

Its alright folks just be sure to change your bulbs to leds in sleepy old Britain
 
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China has a population of 1.4 BILLION people and is the worlds factory for cheap tat. The UK is never, ever, ever going to to have the carbon footprint of China in totality.

How about you look at it per person instead:
UK: 6.8 tons per person
China: 8.87 tons per person

Yes, china is higher but not exactly the 'zong but china' sort of rhetoric you are setting out. The USA on the other hand is over 18 tons per person, Australia is even worse at 24 tons.

For reference, Indi is 2.5 tons.
 
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wasn't what they were pictorially representing on relative personal consumption (great film )
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Following Boris's follow the science meme - there was an absence of any Technocracy in todays cop presentations - Putin&Jingpin realised did the logical thing.
 
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"More than 100 world leaders representing over 85 percent of the world’s forests will pledge to halt deforestation over the next decade Tuesday at COP26, the United Nations climate summit underway in Glasgow, Scotland.

The announcement included Brazil, which is home to the Amazon rainforest, as well as Canada, Russia, Norway, Colombia and Indonesia. The United States also signed onto the agreement, which was backed by $12 billion in public funds and $7.2 billion in private money.

The destruction of forests is a major factor driving up global greenhouse gas emissions, according to the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, with about 23 percent of total emissions stemming from agriculture, forestry and other land uses.

Trees play a critical role in absorbing carbon dioxide as they grow, thereby slowing global warming. When they are cut, and are either burned or decay, they release this carbon into the atmosphere.

While environmentalists and many politicians have worked to keep the world’s remaining forests intact for years during previous U.N. climate summits, they suggested the new agreement could mark a turning point.

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Britain, which is co-hosting COP26 with Italy, has coined the mantra “coal, cars, cash and trees” to describe the top priorities at the climate summit: phasing out fossil fuels, switching to clean vehicles, mobilizing funding and stopping deforestation.

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Instead, deforestation remains rampant worldwide. A satellite-based survey by Global Forest Watch found that, in 2020, the world lost nearly 100,00 square miles of tree cover — an area roughly the size of Colorado.

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Outside of the global framework, several countries have undertaken their own efforts to safeguard trees. Pakistan, for instance, is in the midst of a “Ten Billion Tree Tsunami” reforestation campaign. The project is a combination of tree planting and forest protection initiatives that have previously proved extremely successful.

In Costa Risa, the government has been paying farmers to protect forests near their farms. The project was among the five inaugural winners of Prince William’s Earthshot prize, which highlights creative climate solutions and comes with a 1 million pound prize.

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“I can’t think of anything we can do that’s not founded on nature’s processes,” said Partha Dasgupta, a professor emeritus of economics at the University of Cambridge, also in the video. “If we jeopardize that, it’s not just our economies that are in trouble — our lives are in trouble.”"

More than 100 world leaders pledge to halt deforestation by 2030 (msn.com)
 
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China has a population of 1.4 BILLION people and is the worlds factory for cheap tat. The UK is never, ever, ever going to to have the carbon footprint of China in totality.

How about you look at it per person instead:
UK: 6.8 tons per person
China: 8.87 tons per person

Yes, china is higher but not exactly the 'zong but china' sort of rhetoric you are setting out. The USA on the other hand is over 18 tons per person, Australia is even worse at 24 tons.

For reference, Indi is 2.5 tons.

Therein lies the problem, combine that with the sheer number of people and hey presto. But global population is too controversial of an issue to discuss
 
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Yeah, China, India and Pakistan are the dirtiest and most disgusting countries in the world.

I've been to China and India, seriously China is nowhere near dirty as you think, It's not First world but definitely not 3rd world. It's somewhere inbetween. India and Bangladesh are ******* **** holes through and smells like a sewer
 
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Yeah, China, India and Pakistan are the dirtiest and most disgusting countries in the world.
And the most tragic thing about them is that almost 3 billion people "live" there :eek:

Hazy Lahore declared most polluted city in the world (msn.com)



Hazy Lahore declared most polluted city in the world - Pakistan - DAWN.COM


You say it's tragic that so many people live in these filthy holes, have you considered the reason these places are filthy holes is BECAUSE too many people live there?

Grasp the nettle, we are breeding like rabbits and it needs to be stopped. Has Greta ever been heard to "grasp the nettle?"

No, I thought not. And they call Boris a populist :)
 
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I was just going to say, China really isn’t all that dirty and they’ve made huge progress in air quality in recent years. People keep spouting the same nonsense from the late 90s as of its true today.

For example, London has about 500 electric buses out of 9000, Shenzen in China has 16,000 electric buses out of 16,000 in service and all of their 22,000 taxis too.

The U.K. is most certainly not cutting edge when it comes to these sorts of things.
 
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I was just going to say, China really isn’t all that dirty and they’ve made huge progress in air quality in recent years. People keep spouting the same nonsense from the late 90s as of its true today.

For example, London has about 500 electric buses out of 9000, Shenzen in China has 16,000 electric buses out of 16,000 in service and all of their 22,000 taxis too.

Yup, China are striding ahead and leaving the west behind. They still have a way to go on their environmental record but compared to the UK they arent that bad in all honesty.
 
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