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Wood burner for heat,. 100 litres of bottled water in the garage as the water supply would stop in prolonged power cut.
My wife works for Wessex water, one of the tasks she is in charge of is generator maintenance scheduling. She assures me generators will run for a month before running out of fuel, and tankers are on stand by to put fresh water points around the area.
 
My wife works for Wessex water, one of the tasks she is in charge of is generator maintenance scheduling. She assures me generators will run for a month before running out of fuel, and tankers are on stand by to put fresh water points around the area.
Well that's something then ☺️
 
I doubt it, EDF (my employer) have already fired up two previously decommissioned Coal plants (it's cheaper to import coal from Australia than run the gas plants) in readiness for the coming winter, And dropped production to the bear minimum from gas generation plants. Only 28GW are generated via gas plants currently as renewables have taken over a large portion of production.

Gas production has been massively scaled down since 2016 (127TWh) to the current 28GWh, there are several sources of renewable energy due to come online in the next 6months that should pick up the slack before it gets to the point of brown/black outs.

Have they got enough MGR trains to service the powerstations anymore? When the coal stations were mothballed/decommissioned the MGR drivers were moved to other roles or retired and the rolling stock either scrapped or converted to other uses. No doubt some of the rolling stock was mothballed but would at least need a thorough service before going back into use.
 
Have they got enough MGR trains to service the powerstations anymore? When the coal stations were mothballed/decommissioned the MGR drivers were moved to other roles or retired and the rolling stock either scrapped or converted to other uses. No doubt some of the rolling stock was mothballed but would at least need a thorough service before going back into use.
I doubt it!
 
I doubt it, EDF (my employer) have already fired up two previously decommissioned Coal plants (it's cheaper to import coal from Australia than run the gas plants) in readiness for the coming winter, And dropped production to the bear minimum from gas generation plants. Only 28GW are generated via gas plants currently as renewables have taken over a large portion of production.

Gas production has been massively scaled down since 2016 (127TWh) to the current 28GWh, there are several sources of renewable energy due to come online in the next 6months that should pick up the slack before it gets to the point of brown/black outs.
Could you clarify your figures please? 127TWh in 2016 (I assume you're referring to the whole year) would be 348GWh/day, more than 10 times our total electricity consumption for the year. 28GWh (here I assume you're referring to one day) is near enough our total electricity consumption for a day.
 
Thanks - my online account now shows the correct rates but my DD appears to be based on the old v18 tariff minus the £66.

With the new rates and £66 discount I would have expected my DD to have only gone up by a few % as I was on the SVR until 30.09.

I'll wait for my next bill and see what happens - thanks for responding though.

All those with Eon I received the below in email, specifically reference a question about my rates on October 6th when I change to Next Online V19. I assume this would translate across all tariff's if your uit prices are higher than the cap

Thanks for your email.

Your new Unit prices will fall in line with the SVT rates. We are working on updating these unit prices on our systems and the online app/website, so it may not show this just yet.

To clarify, your Unit prices/Standing Charges will be as follows;

Electricity

Unit Price - 34.23p/kWh

Standing Charge - 44.41p/day

Gas

Unit Price - 10.46p/kWh

Standing Charge - 28.48p/day.
 
I don't understand how UK Gov had been peddling the line all summer that we're only 4% dependent on Russian gas, loads of supply bla bla bla only to reveal gas supplies are at risk in October
 
Nope, more expensive.

Elec - 50.71
Gas - 12.86

Vs

Elec - 33.76
Gas - 10.28

Saving me about £25/month (not including trlhe £67/month CoL payment)
But that’s before the EPG reductions isn’t it? Just wondering as I got rid of my v17 fix and went back to SVT.
 
I mixed up consumption per hour with consumption per day and something seems to have gone wrong with your 28GWh calculation.

127TWh (2016) is 14.50GWh/hour

95TWh (2020) is 10.84GWh/hour

It's gone up though, this year we're at 12.62GWh/hour.
127TWh is 1.27x10⁵GWh
Which difference?
Consumption you quoted above Vs actual production.

When energy is generated it is not all used, an energy facility can scale up and down it's production but they usually run on average production figures as scaling up (or down) takes days. It is my understanding (from internal documents I'm not allowed to share) current mean output is 28GW for the last year.
 
I don't understand how UK Gov had been peddling the line all summer that we're only 4% dependent on Russian gas, loads of supply bla bla bla only to reveal gas supplies are at risk in October
There is no peddling, we only ever imported 4% of our natural gas from Russia, where as we import 38% of electricity from Europe that consists of Gas generated electricity from Russian sources (at an unknown percentage). The sources we import our electricity from are now having gas supply problems meaning our electricity supply is in jeopardy.
 
They are talking about the last 10% in winter the variance between peaks will be higher especially with a world cup on the TV I guess. Its true because we trade all commodities with europe and we dont have a lot of storage, its possible ironically Germany has more gas storage then us now despite the lack of supply. Germany also has the purchasing power we dont, it might come down to the highest bidder. This is where we make the most of all that endless rain we get and turn on the hydro power turbines, except nope we didnt build them it was more hassle then importing instead of producing.
Have they got enough MGR trains to service the powerstations anymore?

I used to walk through the trainyard at the top of the line in the Welsh valleys, coal stacked up higher then houses. That doesnt exist anymore, in Jan the welsh government outlawed the mining of Welsh coal despite it being uniquely higher quality then anything we can import & as has been known for decades Uk is failing in its energy production/self-sufficiency. I dont know they ripped up the train lines also but the trains clicking past on tracks past midnight I have not heard for years.
 
127TWh is 1.27x10⁵GWh

Consumption you quoted above Vs actual production.

When energy is generated it is not all used, an energy facility can scale up and down it's production but they usually run on average production figures as scaling up (or down) takes days. It is my understanding (from internal documents I'm not allowed to share) current mean output is 28GW for the last year.
We're talking about electricity produced from gas. If we were talking about electricity generated from all sources then 28GW is about right.
 
But that’s before the EPG reductions isn’t it? Just wondering as I got rid of my v17 fix and went back to SVT.

Top 2 were v17 and bottom 2 are what they have changed my rates to which are the EPG rates... I'm still on v17
 
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There is no peddling, we only ever imported 4% of our natural gas from Russia, where as we import 38% of electricity from Europe that consists of Gas generated electricity from Russian sources (at an unknown percentage). The sources we import our electricity from are now having gas supply problems meaning our electricity supply is in jeopardy.

Looking at yearly averages on the interconnectors doesn't seem to confirm this 38%? Or are you talking about 38% of imported electric is made with gas? We have been a net exporter of electricity since about may this year and previously it looks to me like we maybe on average imported 8% of electric
 
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Looking at yearly averages on the interconnectors doesn't seem to confirm this 38%? Or are you talking about 38% of imported electric is made with gas? We have been a net exporter of electricity since about may this year and previously it looks to me like we maybe on average imported 8% of electric
Yes the latter, we import around 10-15% on average, so the 7% you see is probably right.
 
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