Kidney Stones

Josh said:
Only just seens this thread,

Had 3 in one go in 2005, blinding pain - never experienced anything like that before or since thank god.

Had some kidney drama this year went for all the scans etc was told by the Doctor that I have 3 in my right kidney and 6 in the left kidney, that explains all the aching then.

I remember passing 2 in 2005 and the other must have gone too, but know they are back with avengence. The Doctor mearly said "come back and see us in 6 months" - I was like hold on chum, I have a rather large number inside me and that is all you have for me...his reply.

"We are a hospital, if it hurts come back asap, if it doesn't come back in 6 months."

Miffed is not the word I would have used for my response to his suggestion.

Luckily none are blocking anything or moving, although sometimes my groin aches like hell, but as yet nothing passed. I remember the pain well so hope I would notice.
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Update on this.

Ended up with 5 in the left and 6 in the right, went to hospital twice to have a laser inserted up my penis and got them lasered out. The smallest in my right kidney was 8mm…

Sadly after a 6 month scan I have x 3 new ones in my right Kidney.

Have the hospital tomorrow as it happens, where I will be giving my very unimpressed look to the urologist.
 
Josh said:
Update on this.

Ended up with 5 in the left and 6 in the right, went to hospital twice to have a laser inserted up my penis and got them lasered out. The smallest in my right kidney was 8mm…

Sadly after a 6 month scan I have x 3 new ones in my right Kidney.

Have the hospital tomorrow as it happens, where I will be giving my very unimpressed look to the urologist.
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They may be giving you a very unimpressed look back. What recommendations have been given to reduce them.

I ended up in hospital full of pethodine in 1982 but luckily never had a recurrence.
 
Hagar said:
They may be giving you a very unimpressed look back. What recommendations have been given to reduce them.

I ended up in hospital full of pethodine in 1982 but luckily never had a recurrence.
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None, not a thing.

I don’t drink nor smoke, I use low salt or no salt, have a low sodium diet and drink around 3l of water a day.

The fact I have 3 new stones in 6 months either means they missed some or I have another issue they need to find.
 
Josh said:
None, not a thing.

I don’t drink nor smoke, I use low salt or no salt, have a low sodium diet and drink around 3l of water a day.

The fact I have 3 new stones in 6 months either means they missed some or I have another issue they need to find.
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I tend to agree, your diet appears fine and I am sure I am not so rigorous myself
 
that is a calcium oxalate stone (commonest type) , they are spiky and you can see why you get haematuria when they scrape their way down the ureter!
i'm in tomorrow for the 2nd time in 2 weeks for laser lithotripsy of a 31mm stone they couldn't get out in 1 go......
having a JJ stent left in isn't fun either...
 
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encephalopathy said:
that is a calcium oxalate stone (commonest type) , they are spiky and you can see why you get haematuria when they scrape their way down the ureter!
i'm in tomorrow for the 2nd time in 2 weeks for laser lithotripsy of a 31mm stone they couldn't get out in 1 go......
having a JJ stent left in isn't fun either...
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Good luck bud, hated both of my ops! I had to remove my own stent which was…interesting
 
encephalopathy said:
that is a calcium oxalate stone (commonest type) , they are spiky and you can see why you get haematuria when they scrape their way down the ureter!
i'm in tomorrow for the 2nd time in 2 weeks for laser lithotripsy of a 31mm stone they couldn't get out in 1 go......
having a JJ stent left in isn't fun either...
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31m? That's 3cm! Holy Hell! Good luck mate!

Thankfully I've had no repeat of my escapades back in what much be 2017 and 2018. Since then I've shifted to 90-95% water with a single fizzy juice only if I'm eating out and I was never one to add masses of salt to my food anyway. Fingers crossed it's 'never again!'.
 
I had kidney stones and gallstones. Both quite excruciating in their own way. Gallstones felt more like a heart attack tbh with pain spreading up from the side and across into my chest. that was a good 9/10. Kidney stones were just full on pain 11/10. Wouldnt wish it on anyone.
 
just looked at my nhs record and a letter uploaded says i have a 12mm in the left and 6mm in the right. Assuming the 6mm is the one causing issues as thats what side the pain was on. Haven't taken any meds today and the pain is barely there today so i wonder what that means.
 
Bassmansam said:
just looked at my nhs record and a letter uploaded says i have a 12mm in the left and 6mm in the right. Assuming the 6mm is the one causing issues as thats what side the pain was on. Haven't taken any meds today and the pain is barely there today so i wonder what that means.
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It means you’re one stretch or bend in the wrong direction from the end of days.
 
I had a 12mm stone that was completely asymptomatic - it was picked up on a routine ultrasound, and then removed by laser, with a stent left in for 3 weeks. That stent is horrendous. The removal process only slightly less so!

I had an obstructing stone about 10 years ago. The pain from that was second to none.

I have a 3mm stone at the moment, which I'm hoping will pass - but if it gets any bigger hopefully they can zap it with echolithotripsy. Urologist wants me to have another CT scan in November sometime to monitor.
 
its the only time ive ever felt the need to call 999. It really felt like massive damage was going on inside me. Eating lots of salads now!
 
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Had my gallbladder out 2 weeks ago - been an 18 month wait for that!

Kidney stones have been treated via sound waves, though my last treatment was a few years back - got rushed in initially as had a stone blocking the pipework.

Had a new scan 3 weeks ago, so probably have some more kidney stone treatment to look forward to
 
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now have a small perforation in ureter (tube from kidney to bladder that generates the excruciating pain of renal colic as it tries to a stone or clot down it) from trying to remove laser bits of stone...
stent staying in and i need a 3rd at lasering in a few weeks when it has healed (during laser lithotripsy saline is used to clear view and could have extravasated out from the small perforation under pressure and increased risk of infection
i also have multiple fragments from the lasered boulder at the lower end of the ureter - steinstrasse -not fun either- but with stent in these should pass with not too much pain
cant wait to get rid of this thing
 
encephalopathy said:
//update
now have a small perforation in ureter (tube from kidney to bladder that generates the excruciating pain of renal colic as it tries to a stone or clot down it) from trying to remove laser bits of stone...
stent staying in and i need a 3rd at lasering in a few weeks when it has healed (during laser lithotripsy saline is used to clear view and could have extravasated out from the small perforation under pressure and increased risk of infection
i also have multiple fragments from the lasered boulder at the lower end of the ureter - steinstrasse -not fun either- but with stent in these should pass with not too much pain
cant wait to get rid of this thing
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yikes, that's no good... Hopefully it gets better quickly!

My urologist specifically talked about reducing the stone to dust with the laser, on multiple occasions, and I can confirm that what came out mostly only came out after the stent was removed, and it was powder, no big chunks at all.

If you have fragments at the lower end of your ureter, how will the stent help pass those? It runs from the kidney all the way into the bladder. I imagine they'll pop out once the stent is removed.
 
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