Is this the unraveling of CyclingMikey?

I think grassing people in stationary cars on their mobile is a bit lame, but everything else he grasses up seems fair play. Used to watch Jeremy Vine cycling vids, and most of the time I think Vine was wrong, but some of the time- you could see why cyclists are kind of endangered.
 
shifty_uk said:
If I commit a crime and put people in danger on the road, I’d fully expect the possibility of someone submitting the dash cam footage to the police. That’s not being a vigilante, it’s being a concerned member of the public.
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Have you missed the start of this topic?
Mikey has basically committed criminal damage against a motorist, that's a form of vigilantism.
 
That’s up for debate. I’ve already said that I think he’s taken it too far on this occasion. I’ve seen the video(s) and although he steps out when he shouldn’t have, I don’t believe he intentionally tried to cause damage to the car, he’s wrongly assumed they’ll stop for him which is very silly.

I’m only sticking my oar into this thread because Youtube started recommending his stuff earlier in the week and I haven’t been able(or attempted) to escape the recommendations so it’s fresh in my mind. I also haven’t ridden a bike since I was a kid so there’s no bias.

I still feel that people shouldn’t be getting their knickers in a twist over him, the majority of his channel is not confrontational nor is he purposely trying to orchestrate situations. He’s obviously brought about some positive change and if you aren’t breaking the law(regardless of what you think of the rules) then you’ll never need to deal with someone like him.

Hating on the man for posting to Youtube is just silly as anyone who’s got a bit of notoriety or ad revenue from it would do exactly the same. Go to videos on his channel and change the order to oldest or most popular, he’s been posting videos of his commute for many, many years.
 
McManicMan said:
It was on his TikTok account, the people that video him even posted on his account
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Oh well, if HE says so it must be true. Not as if he's been caught lying before......

For reference, this is the image that was shown when it was thought to be a knife. A single frame from about 0.5sec of footage where it was visible.

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McManicMan said:
But he didn't cause a collision, the driver caused it by driving through a no entry at speed, on his 2nd attempt
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He purposely ran out into the road, with full knowledge that the vehicle was moving in order to cause an obstruction which resulted in a collision.

The fact the driver drove through a no entry is a separate issue in law.

Your defence of CyclingMikey is reaching 'White Knight' level energy. You do know he's not going to fellate you right?
 
Resident said:
He purposely ran out into the road, with full knowledge that the vehicle was moving in order to cause an obstruction which resulted in a collision.
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If a child purposely ran into a road chasing a ball, would they be fair game to run over? The driver could have (and should have stopped) They chose not to, because cyclist. I hope there's an update to this when the driver is prosecuted.
 
fez said:
We need people who go out of their way to bring attention to the **** standards of driving on our roads. No you won't win in a fight between you and a car but if we want anything to get better for cyclists and other vulnerable road users we need drivers to be scared that their **** driving will have some repercussions. Thats the only thing that seems to change driver behaviour.
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I'll repeat this over and over because I've witnessed it three times in the last week and all through my 15 years of cycling, motorists dislike cyclists because an absolute vast majority think they are more entitled to be on the road because they pay a special tax which cyclists don't and sometimes no amount of debating the point will change their minds.

john_smith said:
I've just spent a week in Copenhagen. The attitude to cyclists between us and them is staggering.
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I go abroad a lot and with coach/bus drivers I'll lead questions about cyclists like "Bloody hell look at that lot, they are like locusts, they need taking off the road" and abroad the coach/bus drivers aren't bothered.
The best reply was in Berlin, he said "Can you imagine what the traffic would be like if all those cyclists were in cars?".
I had exactly the same reply in Cambridge, he said "I think we've got around 30,000 cycles here, imagine 30,000 extra cars".
 
I would expect both parties to get in bother for what went on - Mikey has clearly pushed his luck too far trying to dart in front of moving traffic as he's finally run into someone who didn't elect to simply stop and argue but equally the driver knows what Mikey is doing, as he's already done it to him once, so I don't think he'll be looked on favourably for deciding his best course of action was to try the same thing again but just do it faster so there was less opportunity to stop.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
It doesn't look like it to me.
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Looks like Mikey has chosen to step out in front of traffic even though there is a car clearly heading in his direction.

Say what we want about the driver and the no entry sign, but Mikey has chosen to put himself into that situation and danger.
All for a form of vigilantism, views and getting his ego stroked.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
motorists dislike cyclists because an absolute vast majority think they are more entitled to be on the road because they pay a special tax which cyclists don't and sometimes no amount of debating the point will change their minds.
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I'm not even sure it is this really (although it is a popular rhetoric) as many cars have got a free ride. It is a feeling that bicycles slow them up, while they are happily sit in traffic caused by cars.



SexyGreyFox said:
I've put a slowed down version of the original incident here, did he throw his bike at the car?
It doesn't look like it to me.

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It is a man walking across a road at a pedestrian crossing point with a central refuge when his right is clear, meanwhile a car drives to the right of a keep left bollard (3 points instantly) and accelerates at a high rate at him from a standstill despite the impending danger of a pedestrian walking across his illegal path. I'm not surprised the driver sped off afterwards, he should be charged with dangerous driving. Ignore the bike and the annoying person and we should all be outraged at the dangerous driving shown by multiple drivers there and especially the Fiat driver.
 
Mikey is known for standing in front of cars, willing them, or not, chicken, or not, to run him over. I think in one or 2 cases they drivers actually have butted their cars into him. He's playing a game of 'how crazy is this driver?', has been for years. Just so happens this time Mikey didn't get 'in front' on the car quick enough , and the driver didn't stop.

And to be honest, if i was the driver I may not have wanted to stop either given it looked like a crazy aggressive man was outside.
 
adolf hamster said:
it isn't normal, but are we bracketing any and all non-typical behaviour under the autism bracket now?
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Nope, I'm not sure if you're trying to do that or not. For info my son is autistic and has a pretty black and white idea of right and wrong, so I would suspect this chap is too.
Obviously he could just as easily be a grifter out for clicks as others may think.
 
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Brun said:
I don't believe this for a second. It's not like there's an incentive being offered for reporting people, and the process is actually a bit of a faff. I commuted with cameras for years and only reported about half a dozen cases (none uploaded publicly). Best result was wanting someone to get just a letter warning them not to drive like an impatient ****, telling me to get out of the way while simply riding in the centre of the lane in 15mph traffic. They didn't respond to the NIP and got taken to court for that instead.

The way Mikey goes about his business is pretty extreme, and I don't see much evidence of others doing similar.
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As you say, it's not exactly a quick & easy process, I actually submitted my first one a couple of weeks ago after capturing a particularly dangerous bit of driving, and it took probably 30-40 mins to fill in the forms and upload the footage, while I'm sure you'd get quicker at it if it's something you did regularly, it's still quite time consuming. Combine that with editing a couple of hours footage every day to upload, and I can't imagine it would leave much time for anything else...

I could easily start a Youtube channel full of the utterly woeful driving I see on a daily basis (as could probably anyone in Birmingham with a dashcam!). Fortunately I have better things to do with my life!


john_smith said:
If a child purposely ran into a road chasing a ball, would they be fair game to run over?
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No. Because they are a child. Have a word with yourself :rolleyes:

Edit: if we're talking 5-10 year old innocently playing then see above. If we're talking "child" as in 15 year old zipping across the road in front of you at 30mph without looking, while doing a wheely on their stolen electric scooter/motorbike, then yes, crack on
 
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SexyGreyFox said:
I'll repeat this over and over because I've witnessed it three times in the last week and all through my 15 years of cycling, motorists dislike cyclists because an absolute vast majority think they are more entitled to be on the road because they pay a special tax which cyclists don't and sometimes no amount of debating the point will change their minds.
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They don't want to change their minds. They want to hang their dislike of cyclists on something that they think is valid rather than some ******** about cyclists holding them up. Anyone who talks about cyclists not paying "road tax" is a pillock of the highest order even ignoring the fact no one pays "road tax". The idea that your entitlement to be on the roads is due to you "paying for it" suggests some sort of hierarchy based on money in. I would suggest that the vast majority of motorists wouldn't actually like where that argument takes them.
 
Trifid said:
I'm not even sure it is this really (although it is a popular rhetoric) as many cars have got a free ride. It is a feeling that bicycles slow them up, while they are happily sit in traffic caused by cars.






It is a man walking across a road at a pedestrian crossing point with a central refuge when his right is clear, meanwhile a car drives to the right of a keep left bollard (3 points instantly) and accelerates at a high rate at him from a standstill despite the impending danger of a pedestrian walking across his illegal path. I'm not surprised the driver sped off afterwards, he should be charged with dangerous driving. Ignore the bike and the annoying person and we should all be outraged at the dangerous driving shown by multiple drivers there and especially the Fiat driver.
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Thank you for restoring my faith in people. You get it.
 
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